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Old 12-02-2012, 09:18 PM  
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Go to hell whitlock.
Yes I am a noob here, but after hearing that whitlock just blamed Belcher and his girlfriends death on lack of more restrictive gun laws.
You are a true classless piece of shit, using this incident to push your anti-bill of rights agenda, **** you.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:48 PM   #196
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Let's see ... an army of 300 pound men with guns against a bunch of skinny marathon runners with ankle socks ...

The skinny guys might be able to run a mile in 6 or 7 minutes on a great day, but a bullet can do that in a second or two.

I'm taking the lard asses in a landslide.

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Old 12-02-2012, 10:49 PM   #197
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Let's see ... an army of 300 pound men with guns against a bunch of skinny marathon runners with ankle socks ...

The skinny guys might be able to run a mile in 6 or 7 minutes on a great day, but a bullet can do that in a second or two.

I'm taking the lard asses in a landslide.

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And as an added bonus, the extra few inches of fat might stop or divert a bullet into a treatable flesh wound.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:50 PM   #198
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You fail to take into consideration how many of the people in this country have spent time in the armed forces or law enforcement. You also fail to take into consideration how many hunters there are in this country that are proficient with fire arms, concealment, stalking and the lay of the land.

And I don't care how over weight someone may be. If they are a dead shot put 'em in a protected and concealed place and watch as the enemy starts dropping.

We may not win in the end but, the enemy would have a lot tougher go of it than you seem to think.
Very well said.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:50 PM   #199
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He's liberal as hell, what did you expect?

Doesn't make him right.
Bob Costas at halftime of the Eagles/Boys game, totally agreeing with him - 'if Jovan Belcher didn't have a gun, Kassandra would still be alive today.'

No; he would have beat her to death or stabbed her to death. He made a conscious decision to take her life. The method he acheived that with is about as important as what kind of car he drove to Arrowhead after...

Liberals...

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Old 12-02-2012, 10:51 PM   #200
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Well no shit. More guns equals more gun violence. That is a nice talking point for the gun banners but, the real question is do guns equal more violence in general?

A violent person with violent intentions is going to be violent regardless of wether or not there are guns, or even knives, around to do the damage or they have to use their hands, scissors, frying pan, shovel, bottle, or what have you. If someone wants to inflict pain they will, gun or no.
Obvious.

A crazy person does a lot more damage with an AK-47, then a frying pan (to use your example).

I actually own guns, I am just saying that having some perspective would actually strengthen your position, ie. you wouldn't sound like an idiot.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:52 PM   #201
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I used to take pride in the fact that everybody in nebraska had guns and there had never been a shooting there.
then a couple of years ago 10, 11
somebody pulled the shit at a food court at west roads in Lincoln

one of my nieces worked there at the time

I worry less about gun control than mental health for people

I also like the idea of give them all the guns they want just no bullets
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:54 PM   #202
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Obvious.

A crazy person does a lot more damage with an AK-47, then a frying pan (to use your example).

I actually own guns, I am just saying that having some perspective would actually strengthen your position, ie. you wouldn't sound like an idiot.
This is the reason why the gun-ban debate is over. Outside of a few isolated pockets in NY, SF, and Chicago where people are still terrified of them, modern young liberals are increasingly becoming gun-owners.

You don't win the gun debate by defeating Democrats, you do it by turning a critical mass of them into gun owners. I've gone to plenty of message boards where people who are otherwise liberal turn out to be either agnostic about guns or supportive.

Similarly, Democrats do not win the various gay rights and MJ drug culture wars by defeating republicans, they are doing it by convincing them that its OK to be on the same side for just that one issue, and continue to fight on economics and taxes. Young Republicans today support gay marriage and MJ decriminalization.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:55 PM   #203
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I used to take pride in the fact that everybody in nebraska had guns and there had never been a shooting there.
then a couple of years ago 10, 11
somebody pulled the shit at a food court at west roads in Lincoln

one of my nieces worked there at the time

I worry less about gun control than mental health for people

I also like the idea of give them all the guns they want just no bullets
I did not know their was a west roads in Lincoln,
Are you sure you arent talking about the Vaughn Mar shooting at the Westroads in Omaha?
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:55 PM   #204
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Shitlock is a moron

the anti-gun idiots are complete imbeciles


It is quite fitting that Whitlock is also a member of that crowd
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:56 PM   #205
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Obvious.

A crazy person does a lot more damage with an AK-47, then a frying pan (to use your example).

I actually own guns, I am just saying that having some perspective would actually strengthen your position, ie. you wouldn't sound like an idiot.

What is obvious is that you cannot back up your flat assertion with any credible data.

People intent on killing another will find a way, premeditated or in a rage. Example:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/s...ref=obinsource
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:59 PM   #206
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This is the reason why the gun-ban debate is over. Outside of a few isolated pockets in NY, SF, and Chicago where people are still terrified of them, modern young liberals are increasingly becoming gun-owners.

You don't win the gun debate by defeating Democrats, you do it by turning a critical mass of them into gun owners. I've gone to plenty of message boards where people who are otherwise liberal turn out to be either agnostic about guns or supportive.

Similarly, Democrats do not win the various gay rights and MJ drug culture wars by defeating republicans, they are doing it by convincing them that its OK to be on the same side for just that one issue, and continue to fight on economics and taxes. Young Republicans today support gay marriage and MJ decriminalization.
I agree.

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:02 PM   #207
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Obvious.

A crazy person does a lot more damage with an AK-47, then a frying pan (to use your example).

I actually own guns, I am just saying that having some perspective would actually strengthen your position, ie. you wouldn't sound like an idiot.

You make the master of the obvious statement that fewer guns would equal less gun violence and I am the idiot?


There is nothing obvious about your answer. No guns? Want to kill a whole lot of people? Make a home made bomb like the OKC bomber.

Your "logic" is faulty.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:11 PM   #208
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This is the reason why the gun-ban debate is over. Outside of a few isolated pockets in NY, SF, and Chicago where people are still terrified of them, modern young liberals are increasingly becoming gun-owners.

You don't win the gun debate by defeating Democrats, you do it by turning a critical mass of them into gun owners. I've gone to plenty of message boards where people who are otherwise liberal turn out to be either agnostic about guns or supportive.

Similarly, Democrats do not win the various gay rights and MJ drug culture wars by defeating republicans, they are doing it by convincing them that its OK to be on the same side for just that one issue, and continue to fight on economics and taxes. Young Republicans today support gay marriage and MJ decriminalization.
Gun culture is just so significantly ingrained in America right now. It's part of the reason why politicians (at least those who actually hope to win) never touch the issue. It's also why I was so surprised that Costas got on his pulpit during the most watched show on television.
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What is obvious is that you cannot back up your flat assertion with any credible data.

People intent on killing another will find a way, premeditated or in a rage. Example:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/s...ref=obinsource
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I used to take pride in the fact that everybody in nebraska had guns and there had never been a shooting there.
then a couple of years ago 10, 11
somebody pulled the shit at a food court at west roads in Lincoln

one of my nieces worked there at the time

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I also like the idea of give them all the guns they want just no bullets
It was at a Von Maur department store. And it was in Omaha. But you got the state and the name of the mall right.
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