**** OFFICIAL 2014 NASCAR THREAD ****

[GloryDayz]

In honor of JJ's win (), I thought I'd start this now. Here comes #7!!!

February 15th 2014 is right around the corner folks, get ready now!!!

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Freakin Joe Gibbs' cars -

Gawd damn it! My boy is done!

S-of-a B B

I picked the right week to start him which was last week. lol

[Pepe Silvia]

Maybe Busch should change teams?

[Dylan]

PackerinMo...

I read your post during the week on your fantasy picks for the Brickyard - However, not knowing the drivers that were in the groups you had to choose from - My guess, you relied more on past winners at the track and did not consider that a couple of the drivers you picked did not win a single race this season.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Maybe Busch should change teams?

JGR has to get their set-ups together. Matt Kenseth has not won a race this season -

Kyle is still lucky that he has won one or two races before Gibb's cars began to experience problems on the track.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by Dylan

PackerinMo...

I read your post during the week on your fantasy picks for the Brickyard - However, not knowing the drivers that were in the groups you had to choose from - My guess, you relied more on past winners at the track and did not consider that a couple of the drivers you picked did not win a single race this season.

Part of it was because you're only allowed 9 starts per driver, I had to start a couple that I really didn't want to.

[Pepe Silvia]

Damn Logano must have had a bad pit stop or restart.

[Dylan]

@PackinMo:

I understand choosing drivers weekly is a hard thing to do because of the sequence or development of events on the track during the race - Elite drivers running consistently in the top should also be considered. However, the following links might provide some help:

http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/sto...Active-Winners

https://gamingtoday.com/articles/art...0#.U956EJvD85s

http://www.racing-reference.info/pitstops/2014-20/W Pit stops - 5 pit stops drivers came out on top of drivers who chose 6 pit stops.

I give fantasy players a lot of credit for their due diligence each season. A lot of work...

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Part of it was because you're only allowed 9 starts per driver, I had to start a couple that I really didn't want to.

It's tough to pick the correct winner of a race in that game.
I've done all that, mainly the card system.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

It's tough to pick the correct winner of a race in that game.
I've done all that, mainly the card system.

So far I've picked 5 winners correctly. Gordon at Kansas, both of Loganos wins, Keslowski's win at Kentucky and Earndhardts at Pocono.

[Dylan]

Garbage like this affects drivers and owners:

No. 11 team docked for Indy infraction - Crew chief suspended for six series championship events

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-med...penalties.html

The infraction was a P5 level infraction with P6 level infraction being the worst a team can commit under NASCAR’s rules and regulations. I believe it dropped Hamlin to 21st ? (from 11th ?) in the points standings.

Per Section 12-4.5 B, the minimum P5 penalty includes:
• Loss of 50 championship driver and owner points, regardless of whether the violation occurred during a championship race or not;
• $75,000 to $125,000 fine;
• Suspension for the next six series championship races, plus any non-championship races or special events which might occur during that period, for the crew chief and any other team members as determined by NASCAR;
• Probation through the end of the calendar year for all suspended members, or for a six-month period following the issuance of the penalty notice if that period spans across two consecutive seasons.

This infraction violates Sections:

12-1 - Actions detrimental to stock car racing;

20-2.1 – Car body must be acceptable to NASCAR officials and meet the following requirements:
• K – Any device or ductwork that permits air to pass from one area of the interior of the car to another, or to the outside of the car, will not be permitted. This includes, but is not limited to, the inside of the car to the trunk area, or the floors, firewalls, crush panels and wheel wells passing air into or out of the car;



• L – All seams of the interior sheet metal and all interior sheet metal to exterior sheet metal contact point must be sealed and caulked. This includes, but is not limited to, floors, firewalls, wheel wells, package trays, crush panels and any removable covers;




20-3.4 - All references to the inspection surface in sub-section 20-3.4 have been determined with the front lower edge of both main frame rails set at six inches and the rear lower edge of both main frame rails set at eight inches. For driver protection, all firewalls, floors, tunnels, and access panels must be installed and completely secured in place when the car is in competition;

20-3.4.5 - A rear firewall, including any removable panels or access doors, constructed using magnetic sheet steel a minimum of 22 gage (0.031 inch thick), must be located between the trunk area and the driver’s compartment and must be welded in place. Block-off plates/covers used in rear firewalls in place of blowers, oil coolers, etc., must be constructed of 22 gage (0.031 inch thick) magnetic sheet steel. Block-off plates/covers must be installed with positive fasteners and sealed to prevent air leakage. Carbon fiber or aluminum block-off plates/covers will not be permitted.

Per Section 12-4.5 B, the minimum P5 penalty includes:
• Loss of 50 championship driver and owner points, regardless of whether the violation occurred during a championship race or not;
• $75,000 to $125,000 fine;
• Suspension for the next six series championship races, plus any non-championship races or special events which might occur during that period, for the crew chief and any other team members as determined by NASCAR;
• Probation through the end of the calendar year for all suspended members, or for a six-month period following the issuance of the penalty notice if that period spans across two consecutive seasons.

Since this infraction is a P5 level penalty and was discovered in post-race inspection, Section 12-4.5 C (1,2) also applies:
• If the infraction is detected during post-race inspection, then the following penalty elements will be added: o Loss of an additional 25 championship driver and owner points; regardless of whether it was a championship race or not;
o Loss of an additional $50,000.


As a result of these violations, crew chief Darian Grubb has been fined $75,000 plus an additional $50,000 post-race fine for a total of $125,000. Grubb has also been suspended from NASCAR for the next six series championship events, plus any non-championship races or special events that might occur during that time period. Grubb will also be on NASCAR probation for the next six months.

Car chief Wesley Sherrill has been suspended from NASCAR for the next six series championship events, plus any non-championship races or special events that might occur during that time period and will be on NASCAR probation for the next six months.

This infraction has also cost the No. 11 team the loss of 50 championship driver and owner (Denny Hamlin and J.D. Gibbs) points plus an additional 25 post-race points for a total loss of 75 championship driver and 75 championship owner points.

[Fairplay]

What specifically was wrong with Hamlin's car Dylan?

[Dylan]

It had to do with something blocking air flow inside the car that would create more downforce of the car, if I remember correctly.

Hamlin finished third in Indy.

[Dylan]

bad break for Kevin - caught speeding down pit lane - drive through penalty

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by Dylan

It had to do with something blocking air flow inside the car that would create more downforce of the car, if I remember correctly.

Hamlin finished third in Indy.

I agree its a very harsh penalty, I can't make a judgment call though if it was too severe or not. I don't know how much it would effect the car or anything.

[Dylan]

I has to do with physics:

Downforce is the force of the air downward on the car, helping the wheels stick when you want to corner, and stick when you want to accelerate down the straight.

Source: somewhere LOL