Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 135

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

Just guesstimating the current crop of 1st rounders in the NFL as good QB's and POTENTIAL super bowl winners, not just guys who have already won a bowl.

And you're ****ing WRONG.

JFC, if you're going to use percentages, use the CORRECT percentages.

Either that or I'm going to force you to get a Chiefs tattoo on your chest.

Which is it?

9er guy · 08-31-2013, 10:17 PM

Let's look at it like this. The numbers suggest you either get a guy in the first round, or you find a guy in the late rounds.

Let's just look at the 21st century.

The numbers suggest that either you get a guy in the first round, OR you get a guy in the late rounds that you feel good about.

splatbass · 08-31-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Let's look at it like this. The numbers suggest you either get a guy in the first round, or you find a guy in the late rounds.

Let's just look at the 21st century.

The numbers suggest that either you get a guy in the first round, OR you get a guy in the late rounds that you feel good about.

Show your work.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-31-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Let's look at it like this. The numbers suggest you either get a guy in the first round, or you find a guy in the late rounds.

Let's just look at the 21st century.

The numbers suggest that either you get a guy in the first round, OR you get a guy in the late rounds that you feel good about.

You're dumb

Fat Elvis · 08-31-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

And do you not get that if you DO NOT have a first round QB the chances that they don't do shit is MUCH MUCH HIGHER like almost certainly ?

So just because your chance for a big hit is something like 35-40% you shouldn't go for that. You would rather look at guys who have a .1 % chance to hit?

Do you not understand that teams draft QBs in the first round to start for the team? Do you also not understand that in any given year only 3% of the starting QBs in the NFL will win the Super Bowl? The fact that almost 45% of the QBs that win the Super Bowl were not first round picks is what is astounding.

You seem to think that there is an even distribution of QBs selected throughout each round of the draft that are picked with the assumption that they will the the starter for the team. The fact that you don't understand what is so wrong with that assumption is your problem, not everyone else's.

**RealSNR** · 08-31-2013, 10:54 PM

Wouldn't smarter money be on the 55% who WERE 1st round picks if we're going to use that as a measure of smart ways to find Super Bowl QBs?

I mean, I'd rather it be about the PERCENTAGE of those QBs that do great things instead of just looking at the number of those type of players that won Super Bowls.

A shit ton of undrafted QBs won Super Bowls, you say? Interesting. How many of them are there in any given year compared to the number of QBs drafted in the first round?

And even if you want to say, "All that means is there's no one way to acquire a Super Bowl winning QB", why would you completely ignore the most successful classification of Super Bowl-winning QBs? To not go for ANYONE of that group in 30 years, that is.

9er guy · 08-31-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Show your work.

Ok so from 2000 until now: Winners and losers. This isn't in any order because I've been drinking.

Kurt Warner: Undrafted
Steve McNair: 1st round
Kerry Collins: 1st round
Trent Dilfer: 1st round
Tom Brady: 6th Round
Peyton: 1st round
Eli: 1st round
Rodgers: 1st round
Big Ben: 1st round
Matt Hasselbeck: 6th round
Jake Delhomme: Undrafted
Brad Johnson: 9th round
Rich Gannon: 4th round
Sexy Rexy: 1st round
Drew Brees: 2nd round
Donovan McNabb: 1st round
Joe Flacco: 1st round
Kaep: 2nd round

Saccopoo · 08-31-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

Ok so from 2000 until now: Winners and losers. This isn't in any order because I've been drinking.

You know that's bad for your liver, kidneys, brain and heart, right?

9er guy · 08-31-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're dumb

9er guy · 08-31-2013, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You know that's bad for your liver, kidneys, brain and heart, right?

Isn't red wine good for your heart?

Hammock Parties · 09-04-2013, 07:48 AM

GENO SMITH IS THE STARTING QB FOR THE NEW YORK JETS

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...rter-1.6009602

9er guy · 09-04-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

GENO SMITH IS THE STARTING QB FOR THE NEW YORK JETS

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...rter-1.6009602

17-35 220 yards 3 INT's a fumble and a TD.

Sandy Vagina · 09-04-2013, 08:12 AM

Kristian Dyer (Jets beatwriter) just stated on NFLN that without question, the Jets had Sanchez locked into the starting job prior to the injury. That it was clear from inside that Geno was "gifted" the starting job because of Rex's poor decision to play Sanchez in that game where he was injured.

Either way, I won't judge Geno too harshly until he gives us reason to in games that count. If forced to bet money, I'd say he struggles mightily and falls apart emotionally soon after. But whatever... not even sure why KC or its fans should care at this point.

splatbass · 09-04-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

GENO SMITH IS THE STARTING QB FOR THE NEW YORK JETS

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...rter-1.6009602

Wow, he beat out a failure with an injured shoulder and Brady Quinn. Impressive.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-04-2013, 09:40 AM

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