We’ve got to get Eric Murray off the field

[RunKC]

Still seeing too many snaps like this, guys running free in a deep zone that SHOULD be occupied. I continue to be uncomfortable with Eric Murray's awareness when asked to play zone. pic.twitter.com/dck7kreS4K

— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) September 20, 2018

Everybody pretty much did their job here in the back end except Murray. This defense looks so much worse because of him. The guy just doesn’t have a good read on coverage.

It sucks that we are pressed to play him bc we are forced too due to Sorenson and Berry being hurt.

FWIW Armani Watts played 16 defensive snaps in the Steelers game as opposed to 3 in LA. I think he’s coming up to speed.

Only a matter of time until Murray is on the bench and we look better.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think they'll keep playing Parker. Maybe I'm too jaded.

They eventually sat DJ, man.

If you can swallow hard and sit down with that dude and tell him he's not going to start or get significant snaps anymore, you can damn sure do it with Ron Parker.

I think Sutton's wrong in his apparent belief that Parker presents a security blanket for him that Lucas doesn't. But that's a judgment error, not a lack of wherewithal.

If Berry, Murray and Sorensen are all healthy, his hand is undeniably played for him; that simple 'error in judgment' is no longer available for him. At that point he'll make the call and sit Parker.

He's made harder ones in the past. Being wrong doesn't mean being gutless. Here he's wrong but I don't think he's gutless and because of that, when there's no longer a true judgment call for him to make, he'll pull the trigger on Parker.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They eventually sat DJ, man.

If you can swallow hard and sit down with that dude and tell him he's not going to start or get significant snaps anymore, you can damn sure do it with Ron Parker.

I think Sutton's wrong in his apparent belief that Parker presents a security blanket for him that Lucas doesn't. But that's a judgment error, not a lack of wherewithal.

If Berry, Murray and Sorensen are all healthy, his hand is undeniably played for him; that simple 'error in judgment' is no longer available for him. At that point he'll make the call and sit Parker.

He's made harder ones in the past. Being wrong doesn't mean being gutless. Here he's wrong but I don't think he's gutless and because of that, when there's no longer a true judgment call for him to make, he'll pull the trigger on Parker.

When did they sit DJ?

[ToxSocks]

I think they'll keep playing Parker too. It'll be Berry/Parker with Sorenson coming in on specific packages.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I think they'll keep playing Parker too. It'll be Berry/Parker with Sorenson coming in on specific packages.

Why would they bench Murray when he’s playing well and they’ve already put him in Parker’s role? You think they’re going to put Parker back in that role?

I don’t think you guys are being logical at all.

[O.city]

They've had Parker playing a lot in every spot. I just don't know that they'll take him off the field when he's the guy playing 100 percent of the safety snaps per week.

[RunKC]

Murray should have been called for the DPI in the end zone. He’s damn lucky he got away with it.

He’s also played Baker Mayfield and Case Keenum recently.

I don’t trust him to play against QB’s that don’t suck.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Murray should have been called for the DPI in the end zone. He’s damn lucky he got away with it.

He’s also played Baker Mayfield and Case Keenum recently.

I don’t trust him to play against QB’s that don’t suck.

That was a close one. It wasn’t as blatant as you guys have tried to make it. I thought it was a decent no call.

I trust Murray way more than I trust Parker.

Give me the ascending young guy over the declining old one all day.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

They've had Parker playing a lot in every spot. I just don't know that they'll take him off the field when he's the guy playing 100 percent of the safety snaps per week.

Murray played 100% of the snaps Sunday while Parker played 99%

Jaded.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That was a close one. It wasn’t as blatant as you guys have tried to make it. I thought it was a decent no call.

I trust Murray way more than I trust Parker.

Give me the ascending young guy over the declining old one all day.

Originally Posted by staylor26

Murray played 100% of the snaps Sunday while Parker played 99%

Jaded.

Homer.

2 sides of the same coin I guess.

I'll believe they will take Parker off the field when they do. Up until then, I think he'll be out there over Lucas and Murray when they're all healthy.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Homer.

2 sides of the same coin I guess.

I'll believe they will take Parker off the field when they do. Up until then, I think he'll be out there over Lucas and Murray when they're all healthy.

Look at the instant replay, not the live footage. He barely touched the WR. That doesn’t get called all of the time, 50/50 maybe. For example, wasn’t as bad as Sherman vs Hill and that didn’t get called either. Either way he was at least in position. Parker wouldn’t have been within 10 yards of the WR.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

When did they sit DJ?

Last year. He was a sub package guy primarily and was losing snaps Kevin Pierre Louis while Ragland had effectively taken over his more 'every down' role.

He was never inactive, but Sutton bumped him to 3rd in on the ILB depth chart.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Look at the instant replay, not the live footage. He barely touched the WR. That doesn’t get called all of the time, 50/50 maybe. For example, wasn’t as bad as Sherman vs Hill and that didn’t get called either. Either way he was at least in position. Parker wouldn’t have been within 10 yards of the WR.

Oh I think Parker sucks and that part is true.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Last year. He was a sub package guy primarily and was losing snaps Kevin Pierre Louis while Ragland had effectively taken over his more 'every down' role.

He was never inactive, but Sutton bumped him to 3rd in on the ILB depth chart.

That's true, but he was still playing a lot of snaps.

With as much as we play 3 safeties, I'm skeptical they'll go for youth. I've been wrong before, a few times maybe.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's true, but he was still playing a lot of snaps.

With as much as we play 3 safeties, I'm skeptical they'll go for youth. I've been wrong before, a few times maybe.

He was rotating in because we have 3 ILBs and 2 spots for them to play; that's basic 'fatigue' substitutions. With Berry, Sorensen and Murray, you have 3 Safeties for 2 spots; Parker becomes the 4th but since we don't run 3 safeties every play, he's not needed for fatigue purposes. And let's not forget that they CUT Parker and had no intention of bringing him back prior to injuries. Prior to camp, they had every intention of elevating Berry, Dan and Murray over Parker.

The only question for me is whether or not they'd keep Parker active over Lucas. And I've seen them send Lucas out wide and give him man responsibility in Dime packages - I think they see corner skills there (in fact, if one of the main 3 CBs went down, I think Lucas is who we'd see take over as CB3, not the rookies). They don't do that with Parker anymore because I think they understand he's not athletic enough to manage it.

So I think they'd keep Lucas active over Parker due to versatility if/when they are finally convinced the other 3 guys are healthy and up to speed. At that point he's the #4 safety (with Lucas as a safety/CB hybrid) and he's inactive.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He was rotating in because we have 3 ILBs and 2 spots for them to play; that's basic 'fatigue' substitutions. With Berry, Sorensen and Murray, you have 3 Safeties for 2 spots; Parker becomes the 4th but since we don't run 3 safeties every play, he's not needed for fatigue purposes. And let's not forget that they CUT Parker and had no intention of bringing him back prior to injuries. Prior to camp, they had every intention of elevating Berry, Dan and Murray over Parker.

The only question for me is whether or not they'd keep Parker active over Lucas. And I've seen them send Lucas out wide and give him man responsibility in Dime packages - I think they see corner skills there (in fact, if one of the main 3 CBs went down, I think Lucas is who we'd see take over as CB3, not the rookies). They don't do that with Parker anymore because I think they understand he's not athletic enough to manage it.

So I think they'd keep Lucas active over Parker due to versatility if/when they are finally convinced the other 3 guys are healthy and up to speed. At that point he's the #4 safety (with Lucas as a safety/CB hybrid) and he's inactive.

I hope.

We'll see. I'm skeptical.