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Old 04-30-2016, 07:47 PM  
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Chiefs press conference on Tyreek Hill
Starting a whole new thread about this because I think it's a pretty important to get the justification and story from the people who made the pick. Was posted in the original thread, but I know it's going to get lost in the still vibrant discussion.

Basically, Dorsey would normally let his scout team handle questions about the last day so he can do UDFA stuff, but he felt he needed to address the press and media about it before too many stories got carried away. So they spent basically a full 20 minutes discussing the morality of picking somebody like Hill.

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...c-90e1d8adc228

For people who don't really care to listen, Dorsey and Reid basically give a single answer: "We've done our homework, so please trust us."

Props go to Terez Paylor for asking the tough and pointed questions about this. He's got some balls as a journalist that I've never seen out of the KC Star.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:50 PM   #181
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Yes, really. I have read the police report. Have you?

If everything in her story is true, I expect the pictures to show a woman with significant injuries. She also made a statement that he was choking her to the point she couldn't breath and she cried out telling him she couldn't breath. It's impossible to cry out if you can't breath.
If he was innocent of the crimes committed, why did he plead guilty? Why not go to trial and prove his innocence?

Victim shaming is a CP past time but I'm surprised that you're engaging in it.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:55 PM   #182
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If he was innocent of the crimes committed, why did he plead guilty? Why not go to trial and prove his innocence?

Victim shaming is a CP past time but I'm surprised that you're engaging in it.
Well that's easy. Because putting on a good defense requires lots of $$. More than a college student can afford. The PD won't take it to trial because they have bigger fish to defend in a trial setting and limited resources/time.

Pretty much the same reason no one ever contests a traffic ticket even when then know they are in the right.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:58 PM   #183
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I feel like everyone should have a chance to comeback. A second shot. I don't like him but Vick changed, maybe Hill can too.
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:03 PM   #184
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Well that's easy. Because putting on a good defense requires lots of $$. More than a college student can afford. The PD won't take it to trial because they have bigger fish to defend in a trial setting and limited resources/time.

Pretty much the same reason no one ever contests a traffic ticket even when then know they are in the right.
Oh good ****ing god. You're comparing Domestic Abuse to a traffic ticket?
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Well that's easy. Because putting on a good defense requires lots of $$. More than a college student can afford. The PD won't take it to trial because they have bigger fish to defend in a trial setting and limited resources/time.

Pretty much the same reason no one ever contests a traffic ticket even when then know they are in the right.
I've contested several traffic tickets.

In fact I had an officer pull me over for speeding once when I had been following him at the same distance for over ten miles, said he was "pacing me". I plead not guilty, was set for tail.

Officer didn't even show up to court.
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Old 05-01-2016, 01:13 PM   #186
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Oh good ****ing god. You're comparing Domestic Abuse to a traffic ticket?
Not directly no. It's the concept. The time off from work (or school or both) the cost of hiring an attorney and in the end of the jury (or judge) doesn't buy your side of the story the punishment is way worse than if you had just pled guilty and moved on.

Happens all the time in our justice system. Innocent people plead guilty to avoid the possibility of a stiffer punishment.
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I've contested several traffic tickets.

In fact I had an officer pull me over for speeding once when I had been following him at the same distance for over ten miles, said he was "pacing me". I plead not guilty, was set for tail.

Officer didn't even show up to court.
Outstanding. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but 98% of the time it's the exact opposite.
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Not directly no. It's the concept. The time off from work (or school or both) the cost of hiring an attorney and in the end of the jury (or judge) doesn't buy your side of the story the punishment is way worse than if you had just pled guilty and moved on.

Happens all the time in our justice system. Innocent people plead guilty to avoid the possibility of a stiffer punishment.
I'm sorry but if someone unjustly accused me of domestic abuse, as Hill was accused, and I was innocent, I don't care if I had to use a public defender, I'm going to court to prove my innocence.

Hill plead guilty because he was guilty, plain and simple.

If he HAD gone to court and proven his innocence, we wouldn't even be discussing this topic and most likely, he'd have been drafted before the end of the 5th round.

As it stands, he'll earn approximately $600k this season if he makes the 53, which would be more than enough money to cover lawyer fees in a short trial.
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I'm sorry but if someone unjustly accused me of domestic abuse, as Hill was accused, and I was innocent, I don't care if I had to use a public defender, I'm going to court to prove my innocence.

Hill plead guilty because he was guilty, plain and simple.

If he HAD gone to court and proven his innocence, we wouldn't even be discussing this topic and most likely, he'd have been drafted before the end of the 5th round.

As it stands, he'll earn approximately $600k this season if he makes the 53, which would be more than enough money to cover lawyer fees in a short trial.
Not defending him, but do you think he has 1% of the intelligence that Dane has?

If the prosecutor pressed, this guy was dumb enough to try to get out of this as fast as possible.

Nobody truly knows what happened.
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I'm sorry but if someone unjustly accused me of domestic abuse, as Hill was accused, and I was innocent, I don't care if I had to use a public defender, I'm going to court to prove my innocence.

Hill plead guilty because he was guilty, plain and simple.

If he HAD gone to court and proven his innocence, we wouldn't even be discussing this topic and most likely, he'd have been drafted before the end of the 5th round.

As it stands, he'll earn approximately $600k this season if he makes the 53, which would be more than enough money to cover lawyer fees in a short trial.
See that's a misnomer. The PD isn't required to break their budget to defend you. Typically the conversation about going to trial ends when the PD admits to having about 30 minutes and $50 to spend investigating your case. Where the state has basically unlimited resources. In all but the most heinous cases it is recommended by the PD that you accept a plea deal.
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Not defending him, but do you think he has 1% of the intelligence that Dane has?
I can't answer that question, as I know nothing about him, other than he was dropped immediately by Okie State after this occured and was welcomed with open arms by West Alabama State For the Blind.

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If the prosecutor pressed, this guy was dumb enough to try to get out of this as fast as possible.
An admission of guilt, 3 years of probation and counseling doesn't seem inline with an innocent man.

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Nobody truly knows what happened.
Hill knows and he accepted the consequences without a fight.

From my POV, that's enough information to know that he's guilty as charged.
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Also, I don't know if this has been discussed but if I'm Hali, DJ, Houston, Berry, Charles, Parker and Maclin, I wouldn't want this guy anywhere near my locker room.
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Also, I don't know if this has been discussed but if I'm Hali, DJ, Houston, Berry, Charles, Parker and Maclin, I wouldn't want this guy anywhere near my locker room.
Camp gonna' be interdasting.
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If anyone is interested in how the justice system works for "poor" people (those that can't afford representation) I highly recommend this book "Courtroom 302". Fantastic non-fiction account of a year in Americas busiest court.

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