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Old 09-09-2014, 11:02 AM  
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Put Dorsey's Head On The Chopping Block
It is very, very early in John Dorsey's tenure here, but unless the talent he's acquired magically turns it around by midpoint of the season, I believe we should be shopping for a new GM by the end of the season.

Now, this is a big deal (I would like to think), coming from me. I was among the last defenders on this site of Scott Pioli, and I still think his drafting record here was strong. I believe in the process, in giving GMs extreme leeway and time in shuffling the roster and building a team full of the kind of guys we want.

But Dorsey came in with a plum opportunity. He had the core of a team already built for him (minus the one critical position), the #1 pick in the draft, and a ridiculous amount of free agency cap room to spend, spend, spend.

With these incredible gifts given to him, gifts that any new GM would kill for (rather than the shit sandwich a new GM would get in 2015...), Dorsey took the absolute worst path.

He sacrificed the future of the franchise for a quick playoff run, completely overpaying in offseason talent, hamstringing our budget for 2014 and 2015 so that we let a full quarter of our team's starters walk, including two Pro Bowlers, with zero ability to replace any of the departing talent effectively (with the sole exception of replacing Kendrick Lewis with Husain Abdullah, but even that was a Plan B after Mr. Glass Commings is out for another year).

We were unable to retain Brandon Albert, Brandon Flowers, Ryan Succop, Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCulster, Jon Asamoah and Geoff Schwartz because we had to have Mike DeVito, Chase Daniel, Dunta Robinson, Sean Smith, Donnie Avery, and Anthony Fasano. That is a complete loss on every level, and again, it happened because Dorsey acted like a teenager after receiving his first paycheck rather than the patient, methodical personnel guru he was alleged to be.

The Alex Smith trade was defensible on its own terms, I believe. (We overpayed with the two 2nds, but we overpayed for Bowe and Colquitt, and both of those were defensible as well, as the team was seriously ****ed without the player in question.) But coupled with the Chase Daniel acquisition and this team's continued chickenshit behavior regarding the QB position in the draft, and it once again showed a complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win in a league being skewed further and further away from the Alex Smiths and Matt Cassels of the world. In a league that's continually changing, Dorsey, Reid and Alex Smith are keeping the team stagnant.

Well, less than stagnant, really. The biggest crime of the young John Dorsey era has been the drafting, which has been horrific. It's every bit as obsessed with 40 times and measurables and ignorant of on field performance as the Al Davis regime used to be. We burned the #1 overall pick on a likely bust at tackle. We burned our first this year on a passrusher that isn't helping us win. We burned our third this year on a corner that was worse than Vince Agnew this preseason. And none of our low-round picks are working out, up to and including our UDFAs, where GMs need to distinguish themselves. It's insane to think that Scott Pioli had a better record with UDFAs, which is saying something considering that Pioli only hit on one his entire time here.

I do a ton of mock drafts throughout the year, most of them terrible, but all of them viscerally enjoyable for me to postulate. It's lost a lot of its luster this year, even as we are entering a year with 11 draft picks, because projecting the projects and boom/likely-bust players that Dorsey falls in love with makes the exercise depressing. We end up with a super-young team full of talent that can't see the field, and likely rarely ever will.

I'm willing to change my tune, as I always am, if some of this plan looks to be solid for the future, and not just for the present, by the middle of the season. But it would have to be a dramatic shift for me to feel that way.

That said, we can still end up in a good position here. The Alex Smith contract, which ironically is the best contract Dorsey has signed here, makes Smith expendable if a new GM is brought in at the end of the year. If Andy Reid still wants Alex Smith after a 4-12 season, fire him too. If Andy Reid can't get along with the new GM, fire him. If Andy Reid can't call a winning gameplan in 2015, fire him.

This front office refused to utilize their patience when constructing this roster. In the process, they've lost mine.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:12 PM   #181
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It's not going to happen, but I'd love to see Dorsey's ass blown right out of here. I've seen all I need to see. He's a freaking idiot. Reid, too. He had 6 months to prepare a gameplan for that debacle and that's the best he could come up with? How in the absolute hell does that happen?? Unacceptable on every level. We will win zero championships with this regime. If Reid didn't win one 10 years and 150lbs ago, he sure as hell isn't going to start now. Especially when he's got a GM who seem to be good at nothing except sitting on his dick.

But we are the Chiefs, so prepare for another wasted 4 years until clueless, sack-less Clark Hunt feels sufficient heat have to fire them all. **** I hate this ****ing team.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:13 PM   #182
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So this part is not true?


If this is true than he will get that money. They aren't going to cut him unless they have someone in place and the draft doesn't happen until late April\early May.
Leave it.

A lot of people seem to be dumb as shit when it comes to Alex's contract. The dude thinks the Chiefs can cut Smith June 1 and all of his guaranteed money that becomes fully guaranteed some time in March goes away.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:14 PM   #183
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So this part is not true?


If this is true than he will get that money. They aren't going to cut him unless they have someone in place and the draft doesn't happen until late April\early May.
He has no idea what he's talking about.

The money isn't guaranteed but it is. The Chiefs would have to take a massive haircut to cut Smith next year which is why most reports are all but calling his 15m pay bump next year guaranteed.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:14 PM   #184
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Hali didn't suck as in a 4-3.

He's played MUCH better in a 3/4

Houston primarily played a 3/4 at Georgia.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:16 PM   #185
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Let Smith make all that money and take the lumps while they (hopefully, doubtful) build the roster. He'll keep the ship going forward, be a good trooper, not be an absolute dumpster fire, while they find the future.

Yawn.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:16 PM   #186
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2 offseasons is plenty of time to add depth to a roster. Dorsey made the mistake of doing nothing to address positions that were clearly lacking.

He walked onto a team that had a total of 7 quality pro bowl players. All the broke dick needed to do was address a few spots; instead he focuses on positions we don't/didn't need; for example selecting an OLB when we already have 2 quality pass rushers.
Ok so take BPA on your board, unless BPa on your board isnt who New World Odor has on his board? You complain we don't take BPA then when we do you complain! Because we are Chiefsplanet!!
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Let Smith make all that money and take the lumps while they (hopefully, doubtful) build the roster. He'll keep the ship going forward, be a good trooper, not be an absolute dumpster fire, while they find the future.

Yawn.
You fail in your assumption that the team gives a shit about finding a future.
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Ok so take BPA on your board, unless BPa on your board isnt who New World Odor has on his board? You complain we don't take BPA then when we do you complain! Because we are Chiefsplanet!!

The complaint has been he doesn't address the needs of the team.

It's true. We had Branden Albert at LT when we drafted Eric Fisher

We have 2 good OLB and we draft Dee Ford

It doesn't make any sense.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:22 PM   #189
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So this part is not true?


If this is true than he will get that money. They aren't going to cut him unless they have someone in place and the draft doesn't happen until late April\early May.
And why cut him then. No rookie qb not named Luck is gonna come here and take over immediately. So Smith would be good as a teacher for a season while the rookie learns the offensive play book.
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And why cut him then. No rookie qb not named Luck is gonna come here and take over immediately. So Smith would be good as a teacher for a season while the rookie learns the offensive play book.

He can teach him how to throw checkdowns and take sacks!
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He's played MUCH better in a 3/4

Houston primarily played a 3/4 at Georgia.
Houston wasn't drafted by kuharich. He could have drafted raji or orakpo instead of Tyson Jackson. We would have had Carr, flowers, pollard, page in the secondary. Dj with our lbs. Dorsey, Hali, raji or orakpo on the line. That was the foundation for a 4-3 that was very close to being excellent.
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The complaint has been he doesn't address the needs of the team.

It's true. We had Branden Albert at LT when we drafted Eric Fisher

We have 2 good OLB and we draft Dee Ford

It doesn't make any sense.
And then when other teams draft BPA they're "so smart to stay with their board" people here constantly talk out both sides of their mouths.
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The complaint has been he doesn't address the needs of the team.

It's true. We had Branden Albert at LT when we drafted Eric Fisher

We have 2 good OLB and we draft Dee Ford

It doesn't make any sense.
Drafting for needs early, ends you up with pukes like Tyson Jackson and Jonathan Baldwin.

The philosophy behind his draft picks are solid, the players at this point, are not.
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He can teach him how to throw checkdowns and take sacks!
Yeah cuz that's all he does.
Nevermind that last year he had 20+ tds with only 7 ints. I'm sure that doesn't count to you. Were only gonna count game 1 of this season as his whole body of work right? The game we didn't have Bowe, and Reid coached a horrible game!
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The complaint has been he doesn't address the needs of the team.

It's true. We had Branden Albert at LT when we drafted Eric Fisher

We have 2 good OLB and we draft Dee Ford

It doesn't make any sense.
If dee Ford pans out (yet to be seen. Admittedly, looking bad for now). It was an excellent pick. Period.
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