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Old 11-28-2012, 10:44 PM  
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If the draft were tomorrow, how many guys would be in play as a No. 1 pick?

Kiper: On my current Big Board, I see five that make sense, with the possibility of seven if we include a quarterback craze factoring in. The five guys I see with value in that range are :

• Jarvis Jones, a brilliant, relentless pass-rusher out of Georgia;

• Manti Te'o, the prototype middle linebacker out of Notre Dame (a very high standing for an interior linebacker, I admit);

• Star Lotulelei, the best defensive tackle in the class, who plays at Utah;

• Luke Joeckel, the best left tackle in the class, of Texas A&M; and

• Damontre Moore, also of Texas A&M, and a rival to Jones as the best current pass-rusher on my board.

The curveballs are the quarterbacks. If a team falls in love with a QB, we know the history. They go at No. 1 an awful lot.
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How does the 2013 QB class stack up to the 2012 class?

McShay: It's early in the process and there's still a lot of tape that needs to be watched. A year ago at this time, I didn't think much of Ryan Tannehill. Come April 1, I really liked him as a top-10 pick.

There's no one right now who I'd sit at a table and fight for, but I still haven't done all the tape. Last year at this time, I mentioned that I liked Tannehill's potential more than I liked Matt Barkley's. And I still believe that's the truth. That's not to say Barkley's a horrible quarterback, and I think it's highly likely he's a first-round draft pick. I think the same of Geno Smith, and there are obvious weaknesses in their games right now.

For both of them, it comes down to finding the right fit and making a decision based on how high the potential is for what that team does. I think Barkley will only be successful in a West Coast offense where you can limit the amount of down-the-field throws, and his vertical accuracy isn't that good.

With Smith, I think he's still developing as a quarterback. He's a smart kid, he works unbelievably hard and he has all the intangibles you're looking for, but a little bit like Christian Ponder, he didn't always transfer that information on the field. Ponder would often lock in on his initial read, and I think there's a lot of the same questions about Smith.

This class better resembles the 2011 class than the 2012 class.
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Which team is in line to make the biggest splash?

Kiper: Even before we know the draft order, two teams come to mind. Congrats, Missouri! Rams and Chiefs fans should plan to get to Radio City.

For the Rams, it's a matter of volume. Right now, they're the only team in line to have two first-round picks thanks to getting two future first-rounders in the deal that allowed the Redskins to grab RG3. Those picks would be at Nos. 13 and 15 overall if the draft were held tomorrow. That's major impact potential, and this for a team that already has a glut of young talent, particularly on defense.

Kansas City is also in line to deliver a huge splash. The Chiefs could draft No. 1 overall, and quarterback is a huge need. Right now, I don't have a QB rated among my top 20 overall players, but when that position is a major need, sometimes the value equation changes. That said, what if the Chiefs were to take Te'o with their first pick, and then target value at quarterback early in Round 2, landing them Smith, Barkley, Tyler Wilson, a talent like Mike Glennon or a high-ceiling project like Logan Thomas? It's so early that the QB evaluations will change a great deal (think of where RG3 was last year before the combine and workout process) and K.C. will have time to figure out the value at that early pick. But for splash, they're an early candidate.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:01 PM   #181
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We will see. So many Big 12 QB's who run the spread fail in the NFL. Anf they were at least successful in college. Geno is getting his ass whooped almost every week against Big 12 defenses

You are an idiot. I will be here to say told ya so when you are crying about "another Chiefs bust draft pick!1!!111!, let's fire everyone1!!111!"
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:03 PM   #182
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We will see. So many Big 12 QB's who run the spread fail in the NFL. Anf they were at least successful in college. Geno is getting his ass whooped almost every week against Big 12 defenses

You are an idiot. I will be here to say told ya so when you are crying about "another Chiefs bust draft pick!1!!111!, let's fire everyone1!!111!"
Know what this team + Jarvis Jones/Manti Te'o gets us?

7-9 and a dick in the ass every year.

We need a QB. If this one fails, then at least we'll be in the perfect position to take another until we get it right.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:04 PM   #183
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We will see. So many Big 12 QB's who run the spread fail in the NFL. Anf they were at least successful in college. Geno is getting his ass whooped almost every week against Big 12 defenses

You are an idiot. I will be here to say told ya so when you are crying about "another Chiefs bust draft pick!1!!111!, let's fire everyone1!!111!"
Your and idiot.
OK a troll.

Actually just look up the definition of crazy. SSOOAEDR

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Old 11-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #184
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Maybe I'm a QB hoarder, but I think we should draft Geno Smith and a project QB like Zac Dysert just in case. Why the hell not at this point?
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:07 PM   #185
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Maybe I'm a QB hoarder, but I think we should draft Geno Smith and a project QB like Zac Dysert just in case. Why the hell not at this point?
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:09 PM   #186
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Sign Alex Smith in the offseason as a stop-gap until the bye-week. Let him know that he will get a chance to be the starter here. Then you have completely reshaped the QB picture for the next four years at least. Give Geno 2-3 years to show what he has. If he doesn't pan out, give Dysert a year. Draft another project QB in 2014/2015 just in case. Draft a high ceiling, but underdeveloped QB every other year and we should eventually find our guy.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:13 PM   #187
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Rookies these days come into the league more ready than ever. No sense, IMO, at drafting one and having him sit.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:14 PM   #188
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139-231 (60.2%) for 1365 yards, 11 TD, 5 INT

Geno's combined stats in his five "bad" games. i.e. WVU's losses.

If that's getting his "ass whooped," I'd be thrilled to see it happening here next year.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:15 PM   #189
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139-231 (60.2%) for 1365 yards, 11 TD, 5 INT

Geno's combined stats in his five "bad" games. i.e. WVU's losses.

If that's getting his "ass whooped," I'd be thrilled to see it happening here next year.
For having a coach with no ****ing clue what he's doing, those are pretty damn good
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:10 PM   #191
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Rookies these days come into the league more ready than ever. No sense, IMO, at drafting one and having him sit.
Yep, I would be pissed if we took Geno with the first and let him sit. Plenty of rookies have success while starting right away. We just waste another year or two by letting our qb hold a clipboard and watch another journeyman qb lead us to 8-8 records.
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Geno needs to start game one through game 259 for us.

Besides Aaron Rodgers, when was the last time a high first round pick at quarterback sat at the start of his career and was better for it?

Play the kid and let him learn under fire.
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Geno needs to start game one through game 259 for us.

Besides Aaron Rodgers, when was the last time a high first round pick at quarterback sat at the start of his career and was better for it?

Play the kid and let him learn under fire.
I can't think of one, but I can think of a few guys like Ponder, Gabbert, and even Locker who may have been played too early. Especially Gabbert.

No clue if he had the NFL skills to begin with, but the way he's played makes me think that some time on the bench certainly couldn't have hurt.

The Jaguars had Garrard under contract, too. They let him go to save money. They really should have kept him around for at least Gabbert's rookie year.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:56 PM   #194
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Keep telling yourselves that. Dumb****s.

McShay mentions the "obvious weaknesses" in Smith's game, but fails to mention any legit reason for that claim. Wonder why that is? Oh, he's a hack.

As for Kiper "See you at his Hall of Fame Induction"
I personally don't give a crap. I just am comparing the difference between this years crop of QBs compared to the previous two draft classes and I see a lot more similarities to 2011 than to 2012.
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Do people here actually like Geno Smith or are they so desperate for a QB or a ray of hope that they are clinging on the hopes that he can be what they want him to be?

From watching film, this guy is more like Jason Campbell or Aaron Brooks than anyone else. If that's what you want I guess, then fine.
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