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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-30-2013, 04:02 PM

Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday.

“He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’

Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers.

Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions.

Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released.

The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits.

That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief.

“He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’

Those intangibles were the unknown.

“I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work.

“When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’

In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs.

“It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’

The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans.

“It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’

Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice.

Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps.

“I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve.

“Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’

Coogs · 06-02-2013, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This isn't about Geno Smith.
This is about Alex Smith.

We might be pleasantly surprised.
But it is highly unlikely.

He's had 7 years to prove he's something other than a mediocre game manager, and he hasn't.

Maybe he's that one in a million guy, but I ain't holding my breath.

I wasn't making it about Geno Smith. Haven't for a long damn time.

And Alex was pretty good these past two years. Good enough for me to give him a little slack.

If he didn't have a wart or two, he probably would not have been available. There have been many QB's who have moved on from their original teams and won Super Bowls. I would guess most all of them were not thought to be Super Bowl winning QB's by their original teams when they cut them loose (or traded them).

Messier · 06-02-2013, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

This isn't about Geno Smith.
This is about Alex Smith.

We might be pleasantly surprised.
But it is highly unlikely.

He's had 7 years to prove he's something other than a mediocre game manager, and he hasn't.

Maybe he's that one in a million guy, but I ain't holding my breath.

What would you consider a pleasant surprise?

milkman · 06-02-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I wasn't making it about Geno Smith. Haven't for a long damn time.

And Alex was pretty good these past two years. Good enough for me to give him a little slack.

If he didn't have a wart or two, he probably would not have been available. There have been many QB's who have moved on from their original teams and won Super Bowls. I would guess most all of them were not thought to be Super Bowl winning QB's by their original teams when they cut them loose (or traded them).

Alex Smith was mediocre the last two years, riding the defense and running game.

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Originally Posted by Messier

What would you consider a pleasant surprise?

Difference maker in playoff games against top notch defense.

Coogs · 06-02-2013, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Alex Smith was mediocre the last two years, riding the defense and running game.

I saw him make plays to win a playoff game against the Saints. (I know, Saints defense sucked. Every QB in the NFL could have done the same.).

He also threw 73 and 28 yard TD passes in the Giants game. He had his team up 14-10 with 10 minutes to go. Botched punt by Williams.

Shit happens.

Messier · 06-02-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Alex Smith was mediocre the last two years, riding the defense and running game.

Difference maker in playoff games against top notch defense.

Sorry, that's just not true in many instances. You seem to want to Dilfer Smith, but as good as the 49 D was, they'd have several whole games where it was no shut down unit and depended on the O and Smith to win the game. I watched several games, and sometimes, teams sliced through that d with no problem.

milkman · 06-02-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Sorry, that's just not true in many instances. You seem to want to Dilfer Smith, but as good as the 49 D was, they'd have several whole games where it was no shut down unit and depended on the O and Smith to win the game. I watched several games, and sometimes, teams sliced through that d with no problem.

This isn't 1999.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-02-2013, 08:23 AM

Who do you want:

a) the regular season warrior who leads his team to regular season wins, ala Forehead Manning, or

b) the QB who struggles here and there in the regular season, then turns the ****ing switch on in the playoffs?

Messier · 06-02-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This isn't 1999.

uh.

Coogs · 06-02-2013, 08:54 AM

Just so you know I understand some of Alex Smith's warts, there is this...

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/01/24/c...e-a-week-made/

But I still think if Williams doesn't muff the 1st punt, Smith is still a 49er. JMO.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-02-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Just so you know I understand some of Alex Smith's warts, there is this...

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/01/24/c...e-a-week-made/

But I still think if Williams doesn't muff the 1st punt, Smith is still a 49er. JMO.

But do you understand his herpes?

**Mav** · 06-02-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

And yeah I don't know anything about the browns history...

**** yourself
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Well, then why do you consistently act like I could have no idea what it is like to see your franchise struggle? If you truly know the browns history, then how could you even say that?

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

If that's the only reason he's here to troll Alex Smith propaganda then he/she are going to receive heat.If it's a rival fan that truly wants to talk football I'm cool with that, but this is similar to a "Tebow" following like other 49er fans have stated.

First, I am not here to troll. Never was. I came to this board, because Alex Smith came to the Chiefs. I didn't realize when I came to this board, that this board was without limits, unlike the 49ers board, where calling someone simple, is enough to get you banned. I had no idea there were going to be so many people pissed at this trade. Now, mind you, I was STUNNED at the compensation the 49ers got for him, but I was stunned at how pissed fans were at him. Then, when I realized the history, you know, DeBerg, Joe, Bono, Grbac, and now Alex, I understand completely the frustration. And before I came here, I had no idea it had been 30 years since you guys drafted a QB in the first round. It all makes sense now. I get it. But to troll? That's not me. That's Kaepernick. You know, the guy with the signature that says thanks for all the picks, and rubs it in to you guys about how you got screwed. That's a troll. I came here to talk about the legit positives of Alex Smith. Not to troll you, I am one 49er fan that was legitimately pissed that he didn't get to lead this team last year. I knew his window was short, with Kaep being the hand picked qb by harbs, and Baalke having no love for Alex Smith. Just wanted to see him finish what he had started. Fate is fickle that way, and the 49ers were the victors on the field with Kaep being who they thought he could be, and Alex Smith bringing them a bundle in a trade. But a Troll? NO.....never been my style. Just a man comfortable in his beliefs.......

**SAUTO** · 06-02-2013, 06:16 PM

I explained it already dumbass.

When you have fifteen teams that you are a fan of one is bound to be a winner
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**Mav** · 06-02-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I explained it already dumbass.

When you have fifteen teams that you are a fan of one is bound to be a winner
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Touche. But, I only have two. So, shrugs. What ya gonna do right?

Coogs · 06-02-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

[B]Well, then why do you consistently act like I could have no idea what it is the 49ers were the victors on the field with Kaep being who they thought he could be

Kaep's failed to get the 49ers the win in the Super Bowl on both 3rd and 4th down. Got to be his fault according to Planet members.

**Mav** · 06-03-2013, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Kaep's failed to get the 49ers the win in the Super Bowl on both 3rd and 4th down. Got to be his fault according to Planet members.

that's neither here nor there. There is no guarantee that Alex Smith gets them in there either. But, I tend to give him a pass. If I am going to give alex smith a pass on the NFCCG, id be reeruned not to extend the same favor to a guy who had started 10 games in his career.

Truth is, I think that both qbs will have success in their current roles. I am not stating that both, or either will win super bowls. I just think they will win more games than they lose......

05-30-2013, 04:02 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $362813	Teicher:Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday. “He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’ Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers. Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions. Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released. The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits. That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief. “He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’ Those intangibles were the unknown. “I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work. “When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’ In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs. “It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’ The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans. “It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’ Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice. Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps. “I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve. “Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’
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