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Love how you set them up for the fall. I think pats beat the Colts fairly handily, but don't think either GB or NE can beat the Seahawks. The Seahawks are the best team in football and if, as I think the case will be, they keep the lid on both GB and NE (or the Colts, if they beat us and make it to the Big Show), then they should go down as having an all-time great defense, comparable to the Bears of '86, the Big Blue Wrecking Crew and the 2002 Ravens. And if all of that transpires, it takes nothing away from Rodgers, or Brady, both of whom are more clutch than Manning.
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OH'P!
DON'T ANSWER THAT! I ALREADY KNOW! Tom didn't have enough weapons. |
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01-12-2015, 02:20 PM | #187 | |
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errr....Colts were 10-6 the year before skippy. I'm confused why I should care. Maybe the gutless pussy Colts players didn't exert maximum effort without Peyton. Maybe all those excellent players who the Colts surrounded Manning with got old at the same time. Maybe they had alot of other injuries. maybe they intentionally sucked for Luck. Maybe the Colts backup quarterback sucked waaay worse than Cassel (duh, he DID). Maybe their schedule was tougher. Maybe it was a combo of all of the above. But Luck was 11-5 the year after so as a rookie he was already at least one game better than Peyton, RIGHT? Yeah, makes no ****ing sense. Just like your argument. It's not Madden. It's not plug and play where all other variables are held steady. JFC.
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It's a good thing he takes those awesome pay cuts so that they can keep paying those homeless guys off of the street they surround him with so that he can keep losing playoff games and being able to use the same "not enough weapons" excuse for the last decade plus! |
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Tom Brady is an excellent QB. He has benefited SIGNIFICANTLY from the fact he has been on the best organization in football with perhaps the greatest coach of all-time who is ALWAYS ahead of the curve. But you're right. Not enough weapons. I know, I know. |
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I don't think Peyton losing to the Seahawks means he choked. I think 9 one-and-dones raises that concern. I think multiple pick sixes in Super Bowls raise the issue. I think consistently losing in the playoffs to lesser teams, often at home, raise the issue. More than twice as many playoff one-and-dones as any other QB in the Super Bowl era. That is...not great. But honestly, this debate is getting old. You're trying to prove a point, and absolutely NOBODY on this board full of football fans agrees with you. I'm sorry your hero wheezed out of the playoffs so often. I'm sorry he's setting records for playoff futility. But those are the facts.
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I was talking about the Bears having one of the most elite DEF/ST combos in NFL history when Manning beat them for his one Super Bowl and then the Patriots fans came out and talked about how that defense wasn't even nearly as good as the Patriots dynasty defense of 2001-2004.
And then I was like, "oh ... so they won those Super Bowls because they had an all-time great defense?" And then they were like, "uh ... no. Tom Brady." It always makes a ton of sense to me that [the corpse of] Drew Bledsoe easily wins the AFC Championship Game @ Pittsburgh and then Tom goes on to win the Super Bowl the next week where the Pats defense held the Rams to a season low in points (years later controversy as to whether or not the Pats taped the Rams walkthrough illegally surfaced) ... throws 1 TD the entire postseason and benefits from a tuck rule no one had ever heard of against the Raiders ... Yet people won't give Russell Wilson any credit for being a great QB because his defense carries him. Nevermind Tom road his defense's coattails to 3 Super Bowl's early in his career. Rules don't apply to Tom Brady. But, that's because, yep ... you guessed it. Not enough weapons. |
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Tom Brady any day of the week. Manning has had outstanding WR's with him everywhere he goes, and the team goes out of its way to stack the offense with weapons for him.
Brady, his best WR was Moss for a couple of years. BB goes out of his way to get rid of guys around him and is always balancing the team out. Brady also takes less money than he could to allow for this, and then watches BB get rid of some of his best friends, and still goes out and wins. Brady has played in 5 Super Bowls, and is a freak catch and a drop away from being 5-0 in those games. And he's a self made 6th round pick, not a heralded No 1 golden boy. Yes, he got lucky he landed in the situation he did, but so did Montana. Brady has completely overachieved what he was supposed to be, and he's done it in the frigid AFC East, playing outdoors in the elements. Manning has played most of his career in a dome with a division featuring back to back expansion teams that have never done anything in their short history, and stinks it up when the weather gets bad. Brady all day... |
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Is that due to how amazing he was in his prime? Over-exposure on TV commercials? 2004 no punt game? No clue. But no one agrees because they have irrational hate towards Peyton Manning. No other reason. I laid out a thread full of facts surrounding Brady's postseason after Spygate and all anyone did was plug their ears and "la la la la la" rather than actually looking at the facts presented. But I learned that Tom Brady started out his postseason career 9-0 during the Spygate era and won 3 Super Bowls behind one of the best defenses in recent memory ... and he did all of that by not having any weapons *allegedly* |
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yep yep yep
...Brady doesn't have any weapons. Never heard that one before. Shit, Brock Ossweiler has every weapon in the world now *allegedly* he should probably win 13 games next year, right? |
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Never know I haven't seen him throw the rock yet.
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