O.J.: Made in America

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Someone posted a link about it in a thread about the FX docudrama.

I've watched the first three episodes. To this point it is one of the greatest documentaries I've seen and sets the standard for an analysis of the intersection of race, class, and celebrity in America.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The salesman was very firm on OJ buying that specific make of BM, but OJ denied in deposition that he would ever wear 'those ugly-ass shoes.'

As I mentioned earlier, I re-read the entire witness testimony from the trial last week. From the witness testimony:

Mr. Poser: I told him that I did not recall selling the Lorenzo boot to Mr. Simpson. I also said that for the use in Buffalo, I probably would not have sold Mr. Simpson the Lorenzo boot for the climatic conditions that were there.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/project...pson/Poser.htm

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

OJ admits he had someone with him if you believe what he wrote in his book here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/if-i-...simpson-2016-2

This is actually pretty fascinating, IMO, and indicates that Simpson most definitely had help, which is what many people thought before and during the trial.

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Simpson and Kato Kaelin, who was staying in Simpson's guesthouse, get burgers after Simpson returns from the recital. Simpson begins to pack for a flight to Chicago later that night when Charlie shows up. This is where Simpson clarifies that the following is "hypothetical."

Charlie is a fictional acquaintance who reveals information about Brown that sets Simpson off. Charlie says that some friends of his were in Cabo when they saw Brown and her friend Faye at a party.

"There was a lot of drugs and a lot of drinking, and apparently things got pretty kinky," Charlie recounts.

Simpson decides that "Nicole was the enemy" and tells Charlie to get in the Bronco because they are "going to scare the s--- out of that girl."

He grabs a wool hat, the infamous gloves that would later be used as evidence at the trial, and a knife stashed under the seat, but Charlie takes the knife from him. After entering through a broken back gate, Simpson notices that Brown has candles in the window, which he presumes are for a man she is expecting.

At this point, Ron Goldman, a waiter from the restaurant the Brown family ate at, arrives with glasses left by Nicole's mom. This sparks Simpson's rage and he begins screaming. Brown emerges from her house and starts yelling back. She attempts to come after him, but slips and hits her head. Goldman gets in a karate stance and Simpson grabs the knife from Charlie before blacking out.

After regaining consciousness, Simpson is covered in blood, unsure of what's just happened. Before getting back in the Bronco, he undresses and wraps his bloody clothes in a bundle. He passes the waiting limo on his way back to his house and pulls off into the shadows, leaving the weapon and clothes to Charlie and instructing him to park the car and leave when the limo pulls away.

As he's running back and sneaking into his house, Simpson bumps into an air-conditioning unit, which startles Kato. He washes up, gets in the limo, and flies off to Chicago where he gets the phone call about his wife's murder. After arriving back in LA, he agrees to go talk to the cops with no lawyers present.

[tk13]

In the last episode of this documentary there's a brief blip talking about OJ insinuating he didn't do this alone. But it doesn't go much deeper than that.

[MahiMike]

Did he find the killers yet?

[suzzer99]

Just finished episode 5. That whole thing was amazing. I'd go watch a movie just about the ridiculous Vegas caper. Like Reservoir Dogs but with total morons.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Did he find the killers yet?

Still looking...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Just finished episode 5. That whole thing was amazing. I'd go watch a movie just about the ridiculous Vegas caper. Like Reservoir Dogs but with total morons.

It thought it interesting that Carl Douglas stated that "normally", OJ's Vegas sentence would be two years.

It's going to be really interesting to see if he's paroled in 2017.

Oh, the DNA test to determine whether or not he's Khloe Kardashian's father is just another example of the craziness that went on between all of those people.

Would anyone be shocked if he's her father?

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It thought it interesting that Carl Douglas stated that "normally", OJ's Vegas sentence would be two years.

It's going to be really interesting to see if he's paroled in 2017.

Oh, the DNA test to determine whether or not he's Khloe Kardashian's father is just another example of the craziness that went on between all of those people.

Would anyone be shocked if he's her father?

...if what you said is true, coke and Goldman, and Resnick and sex parties?

Oh, man.. you know he went OFF.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It thought it interesting that Carl Douglas stated that "normally", OJ's Vegas sentence would be two years.

It's going to be really interesting to see if he's paroled in 2017.

Oh, the DNA test to determine whether or not he's Khloe Kardashian's father is just another example of the craziness that went on between all of those people.

Would anyone be shocked if he's her father?

I just hope it isn't Marcus...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by stevieray

...if what you said is true, coke and Goldman, and Resnick and sex parties?

Oh, man.. you know he went OFF.

You know, it's one of those things that "everyone" knew about but it wasn't openly reported by the media. I mean, it took like literally one day for all that stuff to come out and everyone on the Westside, especially Brentwood, all knew about it.

In 1997, our offices at the time weren't but about 5 minutes from Brentwood and the VP's and President used to take us out all the time to restaurants. It was still the talk of the town, especially with the civil trial happening.

It made it hard to believe that it didn't happen like it was rumored.

The other thing, and I know this from experience unfortunately, is that Faye Resnick is a despicable human being. She isn't a murderer but she certainly pushed Nicole into pushing OJ's buttons constantly. What did she do after the murder of her "best friend"?

Write a tell all book, which should be enough to show her character.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I just hope it isn't Marcus...

Here's what's odd to me about the situation: Kris Jenner admitted to having affairs while married to Robert Kardashian (big shock, I know) but she never admitted with whom she had the affairs.

There were rumors that Khloe was adopted or had a different dad, rumors that were backed up by both of Robert Kardashian's subsequent wives. Kardashian admitted to them both that he wasn't Khloe's father.

Now, Khloe wants OJ to take a DNA test to see if she's her father. OJ has agreed, as long as she's willing to visit him in prison. If your Kris Jenner, why aren't you telling Khloe, her daughter, "You're wasting your time having OJ tested" if she didn't sleep with him?

[eDave]

We might see him in Keeping Up With The Whores when he is released. Wouldn't surprise me. OJ gonna work that deal with Khloe.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eDave

We might see him in Keeping Up With The Whores when he is released. Wouldn't surprise me. OJ gonna work that deal with Khloe.

I could be completely wrong but at this point in time, I'll be shocked if parole is granted.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Still looking...

He was a "one armed man."

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And in 1977, when his affair with an 18 year old Nicole Brown began, OJ turned his back on women of color.

Every woman he had slept with or dated since have been Caucasian.

Once you go white...


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