*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***

[duncan_idaho]

And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:

Spoiler!

1. Raul Adalberto Mondesi, SS, BOTH: Tools, tools, tools. RA has tools galore. At his best, he’s an All-Star SS who plays elite D, hits 15-20 HR, swipes 40 bags, and is an ideal 1, 2 or 3 hitter. At his worst, I think he looks a lot like Alcides Escobar. Plate discipline is his biggest challenge at this point, but evaluators are confident that will come with time. Clear No. 1
2. Kyle Zimmer, RHP: He’s pitching again and staying healthy, which is nice. He’s pitcing out of the bullpen to build back his arm strength, which is less nice. But still has that high upside, just a lower floor now. Ideally, the team will use him as a bullpen weapon in September (because he has earned it) and then give him a chance to transition back to starting for 2016.
3. Bubba Starling, CF, RH: Starling has been up and down this year but put himself back on the map by greatly improving his K rate while also improving across the slash line as a hitter. His defense and baserunning are MLB ready; if Starling can work himself into a league average hitter, he can be a solid MLB regular who plays great D in CF while hitting 15 HR and swiping 20 bags.
4. Miguel Almonte, RHP: Still love the body, FB/CH combo. Results aren’t eye popping, but he’s still low enough and early enough in the development to prize those things over performance. Still a solid No. 3 starter upside, and just a year and some change away from potentially being ready to contribute at the MLB level.
5. Jorge Bonifacio, RF, RH: Emilio’s little brother got off to a horrible start in 2015 but has heated up as the season went on. He also is translating BP power to game power for the first time, with 15 HR just past the mid-way point of his season. Despite his disappointing 2014, he has a chance to build his way back into legit prospect status – and still is only 22. Next challenge for him should be Omaha, but that may wait for the start of the 2014 season.
6. Scott Blewett, RHP: Blewett has a nice two –pitch mix already and is off to a strong start. With his size (6-6) and a good fastball/curveball combo, Blewett could eventually turn into a good No. 3 starter, with a MLB-average changeup.
7. Nolan Watson, RHP: The Royals’ 2015 sandwich pick is a polished prep arm who is adding velocity and explosiveness to a good, polished base. Likely to move quickly.
8. Ashe Russell, RHP: The 2015 top pick probably needs more work than Watson, but the upside is really nice. Again, advanced two-pitch mix that will depend on him adding a changeup. Could be a very good NO. 2 if it all adds up.
9. Balbino Fuenmayor, 1B/DH, RH: The Balbino came out of basically nowhere in 2015 to earn a Futures Game spot. Big power and an improved two-strike approach have turned the late bloomer into a legit prospect. He’s blocked at the MLB level currently by Eric Hosmer and Kendrys Morales, but Fuenmayor’s combination of power hitting and good average/strike zone control makes him intriguing.
10. Cheslor Cuthbert, 3B, RH: Cheslor probably is not going to be the star KC was hoping for when signing him out of Nicaragua, but he does look like he can be a solid reserve for an MLB club. Good defense at 3B paired with a solid plate approach and some gap power plays fine off the bench. He becomes a lot more interesting if they think he can stick as a 2B, which they have experimented with.

Spoiler!

11. Chase Vallot, C/DH/1B: I really like Vallot’s power and plate discipline combo. His bat will probably force him from behind the plate, but he’s held his own despite being extremely young for every level he has faced.
12. Alfredo Escalera-Maldonado, OF, RH: Escalera-Maldonado earned a promotion to Wilmington at age 20, which is pretty advanced movement for that age. He’s an athletic outfielder who has shown some plate discipline at an early age, which is encouraging. Doesn’t sound like he can stick in CF long term for KC, but his bat has become one to watch.
13. Pedro Fernandez, RHP: I haven’t seen much of him, but like the reports I’ve heard on his fastball and general makeup. Could become the next Almonte/Mondesi, though he’s more likely to land in the pen than either of them.
14. Elier Hernandez, OF, RH: Elier Hernanez teamed with Escalera-Maldonado in breaking out at Low-A and earning a promotion to Wilmington. It’s still early for this guy – he is just 20 years old – but he doesn’t take walks and hasn’t developed the prodigious power many thought he had the potential for. Still worth watching.
15. Hunter Dozier, 3B, RH: Dozier is reworking his swing mid-season, which generally will cause production to do what his has done: Nose dive. The changes he made entering the season (seemingly geared towards increasing his power production) were a disaster, and now he’s trying to get back to what he used to be. Still looks great and checks most of the scouting boxes, but the performance hasn’t matched, and it almost knocked him out of the list.
16. Christian Binford, RHP: After a breakthrough 2014, Binford struggled mightily at AAA and suffered a demotion. His upside remains similar – a back-end starter who can eat innings – but Binford’s lack of velocity and reliance on command have caught up to him so far.
17. Marten Gasparini, OF, SH: Gasparini is intriguing because of his speed and athleticism. He’s a LOOOOONG ways from the majors and young for his level, but reports on his bat speed, swing, and speed remain positive enough to keep him on the bubble.
18. Eric Skoglund, LHP: Skoglund had a nice year at Wilmington. I'm skeptical because his K rate is lower than I like to see for a guy at A+ - just 7/9, and usually guys lose a strikeout or two/9 as they move up the chain from there - but he has excellent control, walking 1.17 batters/9. 6-7 lefties with great control who get lots of ground balls - like Skoglund - have a chance to overcome bad K rates.
19. Ryan O'Hearn, 1B/LF: A lefty stick with power, O'Hearn was a savings signing as an 8th round pick, but a change in his approach increased his power - while increasing his K rate. After Vallot, probably the best pure power prospect in the Royals system.
20. Josh Staumont, RHP: I was terrified of this guy's control problems, and he walked nearly a batter an inning in his pro debut (32 BB in 40 1/3 IP). Staumont's nasty, nasty stuff (plus-plus fastball, plus slider) could make him a very good late-inning reliever who strikes out more than a batter an inning, if he can develop average or slightly below-average control. If he really masters the control, you're talking about a potential Greg Holland type, but that's a TALL task.

[ChiefsCountry]

We gave up our 6th or 7th best relief pitcher and AAAA guy for a legit starter who helped win us the World Series. Sign me up for that every year.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We gave up our 6th or 7th best relief pitcher and AAAA guy for a legit starter who helped win us the World Series. Sign me up for that every year.

And a top-30 MiLB prospect in Cody Reed, our former 2nd rounder.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

And a top-30 MiLB prospect in Cody Reed, our former 2nd rounder.

Yep. Reed was the one with legit star potential in that trade.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

And a top-30 MiLB prospect in Cody Reed, our former 2nd rounder.

Hmmmm, what would I rather have? Cody Reed OR A WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP?

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

And a top-30 MiLB prospect in Cody Reed, our former 2nd rounder.

TNSTAAPP

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I was fervently against the Cueto trade last year, so my opinion isn't a symptom of rooting for a perennial loser. The Zobrist trade didn't bother me as much but as you've said, the Royals won the WS and no one can take that from them.



But anyone could see that their pitching assets would be depleted from those trades, regardless of where they were projected in the majors. The Royals are a small market team with limited resources and a terrible TV contract. Expecting them to compete for a WS for the third straight year with a patchwork pitching staff is tenuous at best.

The Royals traded two pitchers of consequence in those deals: Sean Manaea and Cody Reed.

Brandon Finnegan is a long-term reliever because of his size and body. He lost the 30 pounds he gained during the Dec 2014-Feb 2015 time period, but he's still a two-pitch guy who's been up and down in the NL.

John Lamb is just a guy. Likely a AAAA type pitcher at this point. Has an ERA nearing 6.

The other guy traded to the A's was also a AAAA guy.

Reed has big-time stuff and could be an all-star starter. Same with Manaea. Both have some warts as well (Manaea - control, Reed - third pitch).

Manaea actually has an ERA over 6 right now. Reed is still at AAA. The only guy from that group of five who actually might be helping KC this year is Finnegan, and that would likely be out of the pen.

All things considered, small price to pay for two pieces that completed a World Series winning roster.



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[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What would be a realistic expectation of a 34 year pitcher coming off UCL surgery? 80% of his former self? Higher?

90 percent of guys who take the full rehab process (and don't try to rush back in 9 months) recover completely. Of those, maybe ten-twenty percent see slightly improved velocity due to the reconstruction and rehab.

I would expect Vargas to come back and again be a solid rotation guy who absorbs innings for you and plays up a bit for KC due to the ballpark and defense. That he's a "crafty" lefty helps in that, I think.

But there surely is the possibility he is a John Lamb and never comes all the way back.

Minor has more upside than that (he could be a quality no. 3 starter if fully recovered) but also is dealing with shoulder problems, which are much less predictable.

Still, odds are decent that at least one of those two guys gives them a solid back-end piece to add to the rotation.


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[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

The thing is with Cuthbert and Dozier we have more depth at 3rd than 1st in our farm system.

I mean, it's 1B. It's where you put your fat guy who owns a glove that can hit. The fact that Hosmer refuses to want to learn another position kind of pisses me off. He is quick for his size, he has a big arm. Yet he plays 1B, where defensive prowess doesn't matter as much as the other positions.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I mean, it's 1B. It's where you put your fat guy who owns a glove that can hit. The fact that Hosmer refuses to want to learn another position kind of pisses me off. He is quick for his size, he has a big arm. Yet he plays 1B, where defensive prowess doesn't matter as much as the other positions.

In theory that sounds easy enough until you look at the Royals 20 year history at 1st between George Brett and Eric Hosmer. Also fat guys that can hit aren't cheap on the FA market.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

In theory that sounds easy enough until you look at the Royals 20 year history at 1st between George Brett and Eric Hosmer. Also fat guys that can hit aren't cheap on the FA market.

Plus his defense at first has been a gamechanger for us in October (inb4 BUCKNER MOMENT!1!)

His glove may have won us Game 2 against the Astros this year plus a host of games in 2014 (you know, the ones where literally every run mattered because we won 50% of them in extras).

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I mean, it's 1B. It's where you put your fat guy who owns a glove that can hit. The fact that Hosmer refuses to want to learn another position kind of pisses me off. He is quick for his size, he has a big arm. Yet he plays 1B, where defensive prowess doesn't matter as much as the other positions.

He's left handed. There are only four defensive positions he can play, and he has not been great in the OF in limited looks (probably because he was a fat lefty as a kid/young teen and a tall lefty as a Hs player, so he never played out there).

That leaves 1B.


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[Prison Bitch]

Woulda been nice to keep Cueto + Zobrist (185M) instead of Gordon, Gopher Ball Ian, Soria and Young (181M). Hindsight is 20-20 I guess.



Also FG features Eric Hosmer in "An annual reminder from Eric Hosmer and Adam Jones".....as a player who's defensive stats so far may be inaccurate or potentially set to revert:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/an-an...nd-adam-jones/

[Discuss Thrower]

Oh sure. Keeping Zobrist and Cueto make sense to keep around..

Assuming the Royals were in the National League and are being managed by Joe Maddon.



....


dipshit.

[Prison Bitch]

That made zero sense^

[Discuss Thrower]

Cueto wouldn't be near as effective with a full year in the American League and Zobrist likely wants to end his career on Maddon's squad.

It's not ****ing rocket science.