Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 124

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

No. Why?

Not pointing at you but its interesting how the guy fights cancer, gets back on the field had a good season gets the contract nobody questioned his character.

Now based off an achilles tear and this issue the guy is a flaming sack of shit.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

We didn't know he'd turn into a pussy. He duped us all. He's an ass!

Dude i think you are an alright guy but you are literally the least reasonable and measured poster when it comes to any topic, wether its sports or politics. You are perfect example of the extreme end of every topic.

If someone is on the same plane as you on a topic they are on the extreme end of it.

**notorious** · 11-10-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not pointing at you but its interesting how the guy fights cancer, gets back on the field had a good season gets the contract nobody questioned his character.

Now based off an achilles tear and this issue the guy is a flaming sack of shit.

Some people are questioning his character, I am flat-out frustrated at the drain he’s turned into.

Besides, it’s Glory. Once he sinks his teeth into something he doesn’t let go.

Molitoth · 11-10-2018, 04:53 PM

Big contracts should be offered to Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce.

Everyone else gets the Patriots treatment.

FloridaMan88 · 11-10-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

This is the kind of insane bullshit that makes people look ****ing stupid.

Name another player in any sport... college or pro... who was officially declared “day to day” for 91 straight days without practicing or playing.

It’s funny watching you try to deny the obvious in your breathless defense of Eric Berry.

The fact you are apparently oblivious to how pathetic you look makes it even more hilarious.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Some people are questioning his character, I am flat-out frustrated at the drain he’s turned into.

Besides, it’s Glory. Once he sinks his teeth into something he doesn’t let go.

I fully expect this shit from Glory, its not just him.

Unfortunately as i have stated before, despite being accused of being nothing but a true fan homer, the Berry contract is turning out to be a mistake, its just an unfortunate mistake. Houston's contract as well.

I hope these guys can pull it together long enough to make a SB run because unlike others I don't question their motivation or character. Neither one will likely be around a whole lot longer in KC.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Name another player in any sport... college or pro... who was officially declared “day to day” for 91 straight days without practicing or playing.

It’s funny watching you try to deny the obvious in your breathless defense of Eric Berry.

The fact you are apparently oblivious to how pathetic you look makes it even more hilarious.

What would it change if they listed him as week to week? Month to month or any other designation. You are stuck on shit that makes zero difference in the end.

I'm not denying anything obvious, its obvious you are talking out your ass. Berry doesn't pick how the team designates him.

You think he is traveling with the team and on the sideline every game because he doesn't give a shit and the team is mad at him? Have you heard a single player make negative statement about him?

Aside from your butt hurt and this thread have you heard any questioning about whats going on?

I have always thought you were a stupid mother****er in general so I don't expect your view on this to change my opinion.

**notorious** · 11-10-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I fully expect this shit from Glory, its not just him.

Unfortunately as i have stated before, despite being accused of being nothing but a true fan homer, the Berry contract is turning out to be a mistake, its just an unfortunate mistake. Houston's contract as well.

I hope these guys can pull it together long enough to make a SB run because unlike others I don't question their motivation or character. Neither one will likely be around a whole lot longer in KC.

If Houston and Berry bring the Chiefs a Super Bowl all of this will be long forgotten.

**DaFace** · 11-10-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Were you mad when Berry got the contract? Was anyone?

Oddly, I wasn't a fan of the contract, but I don't really think Berry is at fault for anything here. I think people underestimate how painful this shit can be.

But he's still dramatically overpaid.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

If Houston and Berry bring the Chiefs a Super Bowl all of this will be long forgotten.

No doubt, and I would love for those guys who had to play with Matt Cassel to experience they joy.

Along with us of course.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace

Oddly, I wasn't a fan of the contract, but I don't really think Berry is at fault for anything here. I think people underestimate how painful this shit can be.

But he's still dramatically overpaid.

I thought the contract was too much $$ but understood why it happened.

Turns out it was way too much money because of health issues.

**notorious** · 11-10-2018, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I thought the contract was too much $$ but understood why it happened.

Turns out it was way too much money because of health issues.

It didn’t help that Dorsey waited a year too long to re-sign Houston and Berry.

They both had defensive MVP-type seasons on contract years. It’s happening now with ford......

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

It didn’t help that Dorsey waited a year too long to re-sign Houston and Berry.

They both had defensive MVP-type seasons on contract years. It’s happening now with ford......

I dont think you could have extended Ford before this season due to his health issues though, same with Berry since he was coming off cancer.

I wouldn't give Ford a long term deal unless it was reasonably cheap.

Houston is a different story.

FloridaMan88 · 11-10-2018, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

What would it change if they listed him as week to week? Month to month or any other designation. You are stuck on shit that makes zero difference in the end.

I'm not denying anything obvious, its obvious you are talking out your ass. Berry doesn't pick how the team designates him.

You think he is traveling with the team and on the sideline every game because he doesn't give a shit and the team is mad at him? Have you heard a single player make negative statement about him?

Aside from your butt hurt and this thread have you heard any questioning about whats going on?

I have always thought you were a stupid mother****er in general so I don't expect your view on this to change my opinion.

Still waiting for you to name another player in any sport who was “day to day” for 91 days without playing or practicing.

Obviously you won’t answer the question, so continue to shit all over yourself with your rambling, incoherent defense of Eric Berry.

The fact you are completely oblivious to how pathetic you look is comedy that keeps on giving.

-King- · 11-10-2018, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Still waiting for you to name another player in any sport who was “day to day” for 91 days without playing or practicing.

Obviously you won’t answer the question, so continue to shit all over yourself with your rambling, incoherent defense of Eric Berry.

The fact you are completely oblivious to how pathetic you look is comedy that keeps on giving.

Why do you care what he's listed as? How does it affect your life?

It's weird you're so hung up on the day to day classification.
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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1626899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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