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02-17-2013, 06:48 PM | #1846 |
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The Heat aren't comparable to the Bulls. The Bulls pieces fit together perfectly. Plus, they had the best coach ever. I've never felt the Heat really went together, but LeBron and Wade are so ****ing good it doesn't really matter. If you could do a time machine series the Bulls win with ease IMO.
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02-17-2013, 07:25 PM | #1847 |
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I am picking the East tonight to win and Lebron will be the MVP
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02-17-2013, 07:31 PM | #1848 |
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02-17-2013, 07:57 PM | #1852 | |
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Paxson, Grant, and Cartwright rounded out the roster. All of them were solid role players. None of them would be considered to be "super." Think you're really overrating most of Jordan's supporting casts, which were usually loaded with role players like BJ Armstrong, Steve Kerr, and John Paxson. |
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02-17-2013, 08:08 PM | #1853 |
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I love watching Kyrie play.
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02-17-2013, 08:16 PM | #1854 | |
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02-17-2013, 08:24 PM | #1855 | |
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When an argument boils down to MJ is the greatest player of all time just because he is, it doesn't work. It's not some kind of self-evident fact, it needs to be proven like anything else (or else you wind up looking like some Yankees fans who baselessly believe Jeter is the greatest SS to ever play). MJ's stats and his obviously his team's titles make that argument work, just as LeBron's (wherever he ends up with) will do the same at the end of his career. |
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02-17-2013, 08:31 PM | #1856 | |
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Joe Montana is considered by many the GOAT NFL QB but his stats are pretty shitty compared to the QB's that play today. But all he did was win, like MJ did. In fact neither of them lost a championship game like others have (Brady, Lebron or Kobe..) |
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02-17-2013, 08:40 PM | #1857 | |
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Joe Montana never ONCE threw for over 4,000 yards in a single season. Marino did it 5 times (and almost did it two times after that). Ben Roethlisberger has an absolutely atrocious TD to INT ratio compared to a lot of playoff QBs. Tim Duncan has only led the league in Rebounds once. And never led the league in points. Does that mean he wasn't a good player? LeBron is probably a better defender than Jordan. Does that get factored in? Jordan smokes pretty much every player ever when it comes to game winning shots. Does that get factored in? What about leadership? How does that rank statistically? Supporting cast -- we're already getting into subjective arguments about which supporting cast is better. Nobody relies purely on statistics. Otherwise, Karl Malone and Kareem would be put ahead of even MJ. The true benchmark is that if you were to start a franchise today and could sign one player to the same dollar contract, by career end, who would you take? Again, LeBron is going to have to do more than produce and win a few rings to beat out Jordan on that, and it's going to have to be more than just padding the stat line. |
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02-17-2013, 08:42 PM | #1860 |
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Nice dribble between Bosh's legs by CP3
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