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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 06-12-2016, 07:53 PM   #1831
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Anyone who actually is a fan of the sport of baseball remembers that the Royals won last year.

Some because it was a team that won it all after capping two consecutive seasons of winning games through timely hitting and fundamental defensive baseball in a era that should be dominated by pricey pitching staffs and long ball mashers.

Others because of how much of a travesty it was for such a "dirty" and not-really-that-good team to win a title solely with "devil magic" (Looking at you, BFiB).

Anyone who doesn't know that the Royals are the defending WS champs are casual fans who stopped paying attention to baseball once the NFL season kicked off last September.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:57 PM   #1832
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Oh yeah, and this is not unlike the fact that I didn't like trading away five pitchers last year.

But oh hai, World Series.

Which no one outside of KC remembers.
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Old 06-12-2016, 08:00 PM   #1833
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The thing is with Cuthbert and Dozier we have more depth at 3rd than 1st in our farm system.
It's true if you believe in either of those guys bats holding up a MLB level. But yes, I get your point though. Farm system 1B is who?
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It's true if you believe in either of those guys bats holding up a MLB level. But yes, I get your point though. Farm system 1B is who?
No idea. I know someone will throw Alex out there as an option. I just dont want to return to the likes of Ryan Shealy, Ross Gload, and Ken Harvey.
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The White Sox radio guys referred to the Royals as World Champs about 9 million times this weekend, and that's Ed Farmer.

I've thought for a while Cuthbert could end up being our 3B in 2018. I think they'll make an effort to re-sign Hosmer. Not saying they'll do it. But most of that contract would be under a new TV deal... and the TV ratings are still off the charts good. I don't think they could throw 4 or 5 of those contracts around, but I think they'd try for Hosmer over Moose or Cain.
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The White Sox radio guys referred to the Royals as World Champs about 9 million times this weekend, and that's Ed Farmer.

I've thought for a while Cuthbert could end up being our 3B in 2018. I think they'll make an effort to re-sign Hosmer. Not saying they'll do it. But most of that contract would be under a new TV deal... and the TV ratings are still off the charts good. I don't think they could throw 4 or 5 of those contracts around, but I think they'd try for Hosmer over Moose or Cain.
Cain I see out for sure. And can't say I'd complain at that with his age and legs (even with low miles).
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Again? When did I stop?
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Oh yeah, and this is not unlike the fact that I didn't like trading away five pitchers last year.

But oh hai, World Series.

Which no one outside of KC remembers.
Having a really hard time following your logic on this one. Are you saying you would prefer to have NOT won the World Series last year? Does no one outside KC (which is a incredibly ridiculous statement) remembering KC winning mean ANYTHING at all?

I can agree with you that I cannot see Hosmer resigning in KC. Regardless of if he stays or goes, he will always be a legend in KC after those two post seasons.
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Cuthbert and Dozier would both be above average defensive first basemen.
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The White Sox radio guys referred to the Royals as World Champs about 9 million times this weekend, and that's Ed Farmer.

I've thought for a while Cuthbert could end up being our 3B in 2018. I think they'll make an effort to re-sign Hosmer. Not saying they'll do it. But most of that contract would be under a new TV deal... and the TV ratings are still off the charts good. I don't think they could throw 4 or 5 of those contracts around, but I think they'd try for Hosmer over Moose or Cain.
You're smoking crank.

Hosmer will get $25 on the open market. Moose will easily get $12 million and Cain will be 32 years old after the completion of the 2017 season.

The new deal won't kick in until 2020 and even then, no one knows what kind of money they'll get. $50? $60? $100?

No one knows.
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I'm sure Vallot could also play first. It isn't a position that you need to focus on in the minors. If you can develop hitters you have plenty of potential guys at 1B.
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Cain I see out for sure. And can't say I'd complain at that with his age and legs (even with low miles).
Maybe as a RFer if the price wasnt too crazy
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You're smoking crank.

Hosmer will get $25 on the open market. Moose will easily get $12 million and Cain will be 32 years old after the completion of the 2017 season.

The new deal won't kick in until 2020 and even then, no one knows what kind of money they'll get. $50? $60? $100?

No one knows.
They might have an idea. The Diamondbacks got their new deal a year early. The Cardinals got their new deal two years early. Maybe that won't happen in KC, but it's not an absurd idea. And their TV ratings are unbelievable for any sports team. If they can keep it afloat they are going to make a lot of money. Not Dodger money, but they'll do very well.

If Moose comes back and plays well he'll get far more than $12M. I think Cain is probably gone. Hosmer might be a $20-25M player, but they just gave Gordon $18M a year. It's not unthinkable.
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They might have an idea. The Diamondbacks got their new deal a year early. The Cardinals got their new deal two years early. Maybe that won't happen in KC, but it's not an absurd idea. And their TV ratings are unbelievable for any sports team. If they can keep it afloat they are going to make a lot of money. Not Dodger money, but they'll do very well.

If Moose comes back and plays well he'll get far more than $12M. I think Cain is probably gone. Hosmer might be a $20-25M player, but they just gave Gordon $18M a year. It's not unthinkable.
I believe it's unthinkable.
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I guess. There's only two years crossover with Gordon's contract. Even if they signed Gordon again, he won't be making $18M a year. Plus there'll be money freed up if our infield is Cuthbert/Mondesi/2B. I think the bigger issue is another rich team coming in and driving up the price out of our range.
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