Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 122

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

GloryDayz · 11-07-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

My favorite thing every week is coming in here to see guys like OKchiefs bitch about players being hurt.

God forbid someone hurt their heel or get a concussion or get their ribs popped.

Nope. You’re a pussy if you miss one snap boy! You hear me!

Eric Fairy has missed more than a snap or two...

RunKC · 11-10-2018, 12:55 PM

Gronk is a good comparison for Eric Berry. They are both the same age, both had multiple bad injuries and both are missing a lot of time bc their bodies are breaking down.

Bill tried getting rid of Gronk last offseason and will likely do it for good this Spring. We should follow suit and do the same.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Eric Berry Apologists are becoming almost as annoying as the Alex Smith Apologists were.

Dense Dumbshit above is Exhibit A.

See this is the exact point, morons like you are questioning Berry as if he is a player of the caliber of Alex Smith. Like its the same thing.

Have you ever watched a game Berry played in and got pissed about his performance? No you haven't. The guy single handedly won 2 games for the Chiefs the last time he played.Thats hard to do as a safety.

You are crying because he ISN'T playing, there is a huge difference here. The thing is you suddenly believe the guy is just a pussy which is ignorant and laughable. But then again about 90% of your football posts are exactly that.

The way fans can turn on a player like Berry so quickly and frankly without warrant is mind blowing. People act like the guy is choosing to be hurt.

And unsurprisingly you didn't even attempt to answer the question because you know you don't have an answer that does not simply equal your vagina is wounded.

FloridaMan88 · 11-10-2018, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

See this is the exact point, morons like you are questioning Berry as if he is a player of the caliber of Alex Smith. Like its the same thing.

Have you ever watched a game Berry played in and got pissed about his performance? No you haven't. The guy single handedly won 2 games for the Chiefs the last time he played.Thats hard to do as a safety.

You are crying because he ISN'T playing, there is a huge difference here. The thing is you suddenly believe the guy is just a pussy which is ignorant and laughable. But then again about 90% of your football posts are exactly that.

The way fans can turn on a player like Berry so quickly and frankly without warrant is mind blowing. People act like the guy is choosing to be hurt.

And unsurprisingly you didn't even attempt to answer the question because you know you don't have an answer that does not simply equal your vagina is wounded.

looks like a nerve has been hit, judging by your humiliating temper tantrum.

91 days of Eric Berry officially being declared "day to day" because he refuses to play through pain.

That's the bottom line.

Flying High D · 11-10-2018, 03:49 PM

Bottom line he’s a pussy.

MIAdragon · 11-10-2018, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

My favorite thing every week is coming in here to see guys like OKchiefs bitch about players being hurt.

God forbid someone hurt their heel or get a concussion or get their ribs popped.

Nope. You’re a pussy if you miss one snap boy! You hear me!

2 ****ing years/

Molitoth · 11-10-2018, 03:56 PM

WHAT'S THE BEST ABILITY?

AVAILABILITY.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-10-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

looks like a nerve has been hit, judging by your humiliating temper tantrum.

91 days of Eric Berry officially being declared "day to day" because he refuses to play through pain.

That's the bottom line.

I doubt that's it. They don't want another ruptured achilles. I'm sure we really don't know the exact details but I have no doubt Berry is chomping at the bit to be on the field.

GloryDayz · 11-10-2018, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Eric Berry Apologists are becoming almost as annoying as the Alex Smith Apologists were.

Dense Dumbshit above is Exhibit A.

I hate to say it, but at least Alex practiced and played.

GloryDayz · 11-10-2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

Bottom line he’s a pussy.

Yyyyyyyyup!

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-10-2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

WHAT'S THE BEST ABILITY?

AVAILABILITY.

That was coined by Marty for the n00bs in the audience

ChiefRocka · 11-10-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I doubt that's it. They don't want another ruptured achilles. I'm sure we really don't know the exact details but I have no doubt Berry is chomping at the bit to be on the field.

My guess as well. He'll be back after the bye and will try to get back to game speed for the playoffs. Wouldn't be surprised if it ruptures to be honest.

Special player and person just shitty heals.

GloryDayz · 11-10-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

2 ****ing years/

In this year's Chiefs yearbook...

Sent from my 9+ using Tapatalk

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

looks like a nerve has been hit, judging by your humiliating temper tantrum.

91 days of Eric Berry officially being declared "day to day" because he refuses to play through pain.

That's the bottom line.

What? See again you are showing your ignorance.

I get it being a frustrating situation, it irritates the shit out of me that he isn't playing. I am just not dumb enough to question the mans character.

I know that beating cancer and being an Al Pro caliber player means nothing to stud posters such as yourself. The guy has a history of being a low character person. One day he could hope to measure up to the character of you and Glory Dayze am I right?

Berry should aspire to reach your level of greatness, THAT is the bottom line here. Could he do that he would have played every game this season.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

My guess as well. He'll be back after the bye and will try to get back to game speed for the playoffs. Wouldn't be surprised if it ruptures to be honest.

Special player and person just shitty heals.

Cant you read? He is a coward.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1446899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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