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Old 01-08-2017, 09:03 AM  
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John Dorsey reportedly candidate for Packers GM

Yeah, that would suck pretty ****ing hard.

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When the Packers face the Giants in Sunday's wild-card game, the focus will be on the field. But the future of the man who built the Packers is one that is being fiercely debated in Green Bay. How long 63-year-old general manager Ted Thompson, with two years left on his contract, continues in his current job is an open question.

Now, an intriguing name has emerged as a potential successor: Chiefs GM John Dorsey.


Dorsey, a former Packers player who cut his teeth in Green Bay under Hall of Fame architect Ron Wolf, has not yet signed a contract extension, sources said. He's in the final year of his deal, potentially opening the door to him leaving what he helped build in Kansas City to work at Lambeau Field.

Sources said Dorsey is incredibly well-regarded by the Packers executive committee, including President and CEO Mark Murphy, from his time as a scout, Director of College Scouting and Director of Football Operations. Timing would have to be perfect, but if Thompson steps away to take a senior scouting role as some involved believe, Dorsey would be in a position to step in this year.

Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have worked hand-in-hand over the past four years to build the Chiefs into a consistent winner, and they are seeded second in the AFC playoffs. The Chiefs intend to give a contract extension to Reid this offseason, a source said. After this year, Reid will be in the final year of his deal.

The list of successors to Thompson is an intriguing one. It includes Director of Football Operations Eliot Wolf, who interviewed this week for the 49ers' open GM job. While he was blocked from interviewing for the Lions' GM job last year, his interview this year means he could be leaving. There is also Russ Ball, the vice president of football administration, who is universally respected in the NFL and by the executive committee. Director of Player Personnel Brian Gutekunst and Senior Personnel Executive Alonzo Highsmith are among the talented members of the Packers' front office.

With Dorsey entering the picture, it adds some intrigue to the future of the Packers' front office.

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Old 01-09-2017, 12:39 AM   #166
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:45 AM   #167
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I saw Dorsey earlier today at Wild Woody's, I couldn't bring myself to ask him about it.
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:45 AM   #168
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lol, let me translate this kc logic: don't go to a winner where expectations are high and a winning tradition is ingrained. Stay where things suck, because chiefs.
we aren't exactly sucking this year - nor last. You're just being a cock.
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:56 AM   #169
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lol, let me translate this kc logic: don't go to a winner where expectations are high and a winning tradition is ingrained. Stay where things suck, because chiefs.
The first part of your statement is correct. Why go somewhere where the only possible direction is down once your HoF quarterback retires? You're like the sailor who gets appointed captain once the iceberg is in sight.

The second part of your statement is incorrect in the present tense, because the Chiefs have been winning 80% of their games under Dorsey, which is the best in the league. But yeah, for most of the time before that, life was difficult and challenging in the Chiefs world. So it's the best of all possible worlds - a very hungry fan base and a roster and staff in place that is on the cusp of greatness. This is like being named the head of Edison's Laboratory three days before he perfects the light bulb.
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Old 01-09-2017, 01:01 AM   #170
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Sam Mellinger made the point on Ch. 41 tonight that all Dorsey had to do was come out and make a quick statement to squash all this talk of his leaving, but he's been completely silent.

I think he's gone.

Still wondering if this means Reid gets all the power now.
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Old 01-09-2017, 01:07 AM   #171
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lol, let me translate this kc logic: don't go to a winner where expectations are high and a winning tradition is ingrained. Stay where things suck, because chiefs.
Shhh... this forum is for playoff teams.
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Old 01-09-2017, 01:10 AM   #172
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Sam Mellinger made the point on Ch. 41 tonight that all Dorsey had to do was come out and make a quick statement to squash all this talk of his leaving, but he's been completely silent.

I think he's gone.

Still wondering if this means Reid gets all the power now.
no way - not w/ CHunt.
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Sam Mellinger made the point on Ch. 41 tonight that all Dorsey had to do was come out and make a quick statement to squash all this talk of his leaving, but he's been completely silent.

I think he's gone.

Still wondering if this means Reid gets all the power now.
When has Dorsey ever came out to say anything? And it's been less than 24 hours since this news came out. At least give him a day or two if you need him to make a statement.
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:31 AM   #174
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Sam Mellinger made the point on Ch. 41 tonight that all Dorsey had to do was come out and make a quick statement to squash all this talk of his leaving, but he's been completely silent.

I think he's gone.

Still wondering if this means Reid gets all the power now.
This is what is scary, it doesn't take hours, days, or weeks to come up with something simple like "I love KC, I'm not going anywhere". There has been smoke building around this rumor for days and nothing has been said by anyone of note (Hunt/Reid/Dorse), unfortunately there appears to be fire somewhere.
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:38 AM   #175
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I don't think Dorsey is so great that we couldn't be fine without him.

What I don't like is that he and Reid get along and work really well together. That kind of work relationship is hard to replicate...
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Sam Mellinger made the point on Ch. 41 tonight that all Dorsey had to do was come out and make a quick statement to squash all this talk of his leaving, but he's been completely silent.

I think he's gone.

Still wondering if this means Reid gets all the power now.
I don't know why he would. If there is an interested suitor like Green bay that would give him lots of leverage in the contract negotiation. If Clark hunt makes a statement, it hints that they'll roll over and give him whatever he wants. I don't think either side benefits from saying anything.
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:58 AM   #177
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I don't know why he would. If there is an interested suitor like Green bay that would give him lots of leverage in the contract negotiation. If Clark hunt makes a statement, it hints that they'll roll over and give him whatever he wants. I don't think either side benefits from saying anything.
I get the logic behind this but I also think Clark would not play childish Pioli-esque games with Dorsey. He has seen enough bullshit with Carl and Fat Scott that I highly doubt a few million over 5 years would cloud his judgement. Picture Clark's life during the Pioli shitshow, he had to constantly deal with the media and drama. He basically hasn't had to do a damn thing for four years except bulldoze his millions into his mansion. I would also bear in mind that paying off the rest of Pioli/Crennel/Haley's contracts after their firings is a mountain of cash compared to forking over a little more to retain Dorsey.

The longer this rumor persists, the more I think that maybe GB has cemented a place in Dorsey's heart that we can't overcome. All things considered, the simple question that doesn't seem to have an answer is "Why hasn't John Dorsey been extended?"
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Have we done any research on the Ted Thompson thing? I mean 63 is kinda young to step down.
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How often do coaches or front office types simply walk after their contract? Shouldn't we have been approaching our guys much earlier to assure this was never even a possibility? It would be typical Chiefs luck for this to happen to us.

The only silver lining would be that a new GM might be willing to finally get rid of the piece of shit Smith for a real QB.
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Have we done any research on the Ted Thompson thing? I mean 63 is kinda young to step down.
And John Dorsey turns 57 this year so it isn't like he has that much younger than Ted Thompson.

I think this story is being driven by Dorsey's representatives to create leverage as he enters into contract extention negotiations with the Chiefs.
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