Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 12

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

Lex Luthor · 11-21-2016, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

Sandy Vagina · 11-21-2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Only an Alex Smith fan would says it's irrelevant.

omg this guy's dumb as ****. ^ Okay.. we're done here.

#napsrawesome

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor

I've always liked Alex Smith, but I'm going to have to side with the Smith critics on this one. Smith may not have been THE problem, but he sure as hell had a chance to be part of the solution, and he blew it with the pick in the end zone.

This goes back to the argument people make about Smith not being able to step up and carry the team in crucial situations. He failed at that yesterday.

Which side were you on when the team was 1-5 in 2015?

Just curious.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

omg this guy's dumb as ****. ^ Okay.. we're done here.

#napsrawesome

Inmem is on track to be the 10th person to be on my ignore list. But the beating he gets from Dane is too good not to read.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-21-2016, 11:03 AM

tweeted minutes ago..

"Watch....learn...correct.....on to the next. #denverweek #ChiefsKingdom" - Jeremy Maclin

Sounds like he'll be back.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

tweeted minutes ago..

"Watch....learn...correct.....on to the next. #denverweek #ChiefsKingdom" - Jeremy Maclin

Sounds like he'll be back.

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 11:04 AM

What will the excuses be when the offense doesn't improve with Maclin back?

Offensive line sucks?
Playcalling?
Defense not giving the offense enough TOP?

CoMoChief · 11-21-2016, 11:05 AM

When the defense held the bucs to fg's over and over...how did alex smith respond? He continued to stall drives and go 3nout.

Yes the defense couldnt get off the field. But giving up 19 pts at home to a very avg bucs team should put your team in a position to win. But alex smith has to play almost perfect mistake free football in order for him to be effective. He needs to run in order to be effective. He needs to get kelce the ball in order to be effective. When he does neither he becomes a liability.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:05 AM

Thanks for driving up the traffic on CP today folks, I'm headed to the ER to save some folks from a visit with the grim reaper. Should be back by 10

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 11:06 AM

You know who else takes blame in that time of position battle? The offense for not converting 3rd downs. The offense hung the defense out to dry on Sunday.

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Thanks for driving up the traffic on CP today folks, I'm headed to the ER to save some folks from a visit with the grim reaper. Should be back by 10

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

When the defense held the bucs to fg's over and over...how did alex smith respond? He continued to stall drives and go 3nout.

Yes the defense couldnt get off the field. But giving up 19 pts at home to a very avg bucs team should put your team in a position to win. But alex smith has to play almost perfect mistake free football in order for him to be effective. He needs to run in order to be effective. He needs to get kelce the ball in order to be effective. When he does neither he becomes a liability.

You understand the 2 TD's our offense scored happened in 4 minutes or less?

And that rather than giving up FG's we could've held them to zero but the defense gave up 50+ yards on each drive that led to those field goals?

Facts. Not fiction.

Beef Supreme · 11-21-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

"The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs. "

Read thru the whole thing next time buddy.

The Chiefs had the ball 9 times. The Bucs had the ball 8 times. While the Bucs did have long drives where our defense couldn't get off the field, the Chiefs had more opportunities to do the same to them. Didn't.

**Bowser** · 11-21-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You understand the 2 TD's our offense scored happened in 4 minutes or less?

And that rather than giving up FG's we could've held them to zero but the defense gave up 50+ yards on each drive that led to those field goals?

Facts. Not fiction.

The Bucs were playing prevent. The Bucs have one of the worst defenses in football. Alex didn't have it in him to pull it off.

Facts. Not fiction.

**Bowser** · 11-21-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8032254	When the defense held the bucs to fg's over and over...how did alex smith respond? He continued to stall drives and go 3nout. Yes the defense couldnt get off the field. But giving up 19 pts at home to a very avg bucs team should put your team in a position to win. But alex smith has to play almost perfect mistake free football in order for him to be effective. He needs to run in order to be effective. He needs to get kelce the ball in order to be effective. When he does neither he becomes a liability. __________________
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2815047	You know who else takes blame in that time of position battle? The offense for not converting 3rd downs. The offense hung the defense out to dry on Sunday.
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