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Old 03-10-2015, 02:42 PM  
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:10 PM   #166
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Nah, you gotta figure that if Houston didn't want J.J. Watt money then the Chiefs would have signed him already and then tagged Hudson.

They gave up something to tag Houston. Houston either wants a buttload of money or just plain wants out of KC.

That is not taking either side, just logic.
They weren't gonna tag Hudson at 12m.

No way
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:12 PM   #167
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Part of me says, **** it, if Houston doesn't want to be here let's use him to trade for Brees. Houston would be here for another year or 2 on a franchise tag. We could easily get a year or 2 out of Brees. As long as the Saints don't want more than a 4th rounder on top of Houston, I'd say why not....never gonna happen though.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:13 PM   #168
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Exactly.

He better hope he doesn't hurt his elbow again...or blow out a knee...if he does, he will have a long road back to RIGHT HERE...and likely will never get back.

It's a shame his agent has convinced him that he has all this untouchable leverage in this situation when in reality the Chiefs can keep him for 3 years for around 50m and force him to play on one year deals the whole way.

Dude better step back and realize what a big gamble that really is.
Intellectually, I know an O-lineman in the first round is probably the way to go.

From a pure '**** off Segal' standpoint, I'd love to see them grab Bud Dupree and tell them to shove their leverage up their ass.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:13 PM   #169
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Houston would be stupid to sign our offer if there is still the possibility of another team paying him what he wants. I say if nobody comes knocking, then he may look at the offer again. Dungver has been quiet, and that would be a completely Elway move. That would ****ing SUCK!!!!
The Raiders could sign him and gift us two HIGH 1st round picks.

You want the fans back? You bring back that nasty ass Raider defense with Mack and Houston and a high 2nd and 3rd round pick yet to use.

This $3itbag team beat us last year with Houston on OUR side. Image the war crimes that would occur if Houston got to take on our offensive line...
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:16 PM   #170
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Intellectually, I know an O-lineman in the first round is probably the way to go.

From a pure '**** off Segal' standpoint, I'd love to see them grab Bud Dupree and tell them to shove their leverage up their ass.
Tell me more.....

Sadly though, ol is probably the way they'll go. Lael Collins maybe
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:20 PM   #171
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Tell me more.....

Sadly though, ol is probably the way they'll go. Lael Collins maybe
Just sayin'.

If Ford and Dupree pan out, neither one of them are likely to ever be as good as Houston, to say the least. However, those are two absolute missiles. The speed those guys have as well as their raw physical gifts (first step, body lean, agility, etc...) is off the damn charts.

Ford and Dupree in 2 years could easily be as good as Houston and a rapidly declining Hali were last year.

It's risky as hell, no doubt, and there's no better than a 50/50 shot that they both actually pan out. Still, if they did, those two could absolutely wreck shit.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:24 PM   #172
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I wonder what the top dollar KC has offered Houston really is...the agent seemed to indicate that his client deserves to be paid as the top non quarterback in the NFL and was the same agent that caused Houston to be the last player from that draft to sign his rookie slotted contract. Same guy that convinced Chris Jognson to sit out till week 10 before getting that stupid contract Tennessee is probably still paying for.

IMO Houston should fire his agent.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:27 PM   #173
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There is virtually no way the Chiefs could afford to trade for Brees. You would have to trade Alex Smith and that would escalate the remaining $14M of his signing bonus to all hit this year.

Simultaneously, you'd be carrying an $18M salary for Brees. You could maybe extend by two years, converting that salary to bonus, and then the cap number would drop down to around $5-6M this year. Then you're paying $21M for Brees this year and $23M next year.

I mean, actually, nevermind. You could do it. But it would take a hell of a lot of financial wizardry and I'm not sure you could get the deal done by Thursday, which is when Alex's salary becomes guaranteed.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:32 PM   #174
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They weren't gonna tag Hudson at 12m.

No way
Fair enough

They really need to divide up the tag $ within the Oline. OT's are spiking the numbers.

Still, I would think a long term contract would allow them to structure a better cap number than the tag does.
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Another reason why the alex smith extension was a total shit job unnecessary waste of money.
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You don't need a guy like Brees if you have the right 53.
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I mean, actually, nevermind. You could do it. But it would take a hell of a lot of financial wizardry and I'm not sure you could get the deal done by Thursday, which is when Alex's salary becomes guaranteed.
You'd have to really, really want to.

You know, instead of just saying "Meh...we're good enough."
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Another reason why the alex smith extension was a total shit job unnecessary waste of money.
Such a **** up...
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Another reason why the alex smith extension was a total shit job unnecessary waste of money.
The Chiefs saved themselves a lot of money by extending him when they did. Can you imagine how much Alex would have demanded after the season he just had? Smart move by the Chiefs.
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Another reason why the alex smith extension was a total shit job unnecessary waste of money.
Fix the line and keep Smith > Trade for Brees keep current shit line.
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