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Old 01-01-2014, 09:24 AM  
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2 years.....2 highest total offense seasons in SEC history. 9989 total yards in career (most by any player through sophomore season. 63 pass td's and 30 rush td's. Last night's game was amazing. Kiper and McShay have him in top 10 for the draft. Awesome game last night, dude never quits.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:01 AM   #166
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I'd trade our first, next years first and Alex Smith to draft Johnny Manziel.

I think he is gonna be a special player.

Rare talent.


You serious, Clark?
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:02 AM   #167
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I'm just not sure all that moxie and improvisational skill will translate to much if anything in the nfl, if he can't make plays from the pocket (which I don't think he consistently can).
That remains to be seen. He's a very smart kid. I don't see any reason to say he can't learn to play from the pocket.

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Like with kaep, the running around is great, but it should be a last resort kind of thing used when necessary. I think you have to be able to beat teams from the pocket with your arm to be that guy.
Manziel, outside of the pocket, has pinpoint accuracy. Kaepernick doesn't compare at all. Kaepernick, outside of the pocket, is a RB, for all intents and purposes.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:03 AM   #168
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Report: Johnny Manziel totaled highest Wonderlic test score among QB’s


http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews....mong-qbs.html/

This guy is gonna ROCK the football world !
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:11 AM   #169
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That remains to be seen. He's a very smart kid. I don't see any reason to say he can't learn to play from the pocket.



Manziel, outside of the pocket, has pinpoint accuracy. Kaepernick doesn't compare at all. Kaepernick, outside of the pocket, is a RB, for all intents and purposes.
In college, against college level competition, sure. But we are comparing nfl kaep to college Manziel.


I also wouldn't be excited about taking a qb in the first round and hoping he can learn to play from the pocket. So while you don't see any reason he can't, there haven't been many guys at all who have been able to effectively learn that at the next level. Maybe he's different, have to see.

As much as the spread qb stuff has died down when translating to te league, there's a lot of talk from guys smarter than me about that stuff who say manziel was all 1 read simple offense type player.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:12 AM   #170
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In college, against college level competition, sure. But we are comparing nfl kaep to college Manziel.


I also wouldn't be excited about taking a qb in the first round and hoping he can learn to play from the pocket. So while you don't see any reason he can't, there haven't been many guys at all who have been able to effectively learn that at the next level. Maybe he's different, have to see.

As much as the spread qb stuff has died down when translating to te league, there's a lot of talk from guys smarter than me about that stuff who say manziel was all 1 read simple offense type player.
Yeah, him coming out of Sumlin's offense is definitely a concern.
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Yeah, him coming out of Sumlin's offense is definitely a concern.
The way nfl offenses have transitioned, I don't think it's as big of a concern now as it was 10 years ago though
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I think Manziel would be a great fit with Andy Reid, and if we had a 2nd round pik I think that would be a perfect spot to take him.

I just don't know about spending a first round pick on te guy.
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The way nfl offenses have transitioned, I don't think it's as big of a concern now as it was 10 years ago though
It's also minimized somewhat by the fact that the kid is pretty smart. It's not like he can't learn.
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I think Manziel would be a great fit with Andy Reid, and if we had a 2nd round pik I think that would be a perfect spot to take him.

I just don't know about spending a first round pick on te guy.
His game isn't all that different than Smith's.
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It's also minimized somewhat by the fact that the kid is pretty smart. It's not like he can't learn.
Like you said, it's yet to be seen.

It just seems guys who run like he does, always use they as a crutch and never learn.
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I think the team that manages to land JM is smart. Sure he may bust but there's no doubt he's possibly the next Joe Montana. I know being Chiefs fans we don't really understand how important a QB is but others do.

The Chiefs are the guy who takes his cousin to the prom, enjoys it then asks them for a 2nd date next fall.
This. If somehow Manziel falls to us and we take a guard instead, my give a shit meter will drop to zero.
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He's talented as hell, but I think he's an asshole, and I don't think he'd accept being drafted by the Chiefs. I think he's pull and Eli and demand a trade. I just think he's that kind of kid. And all he's ever going to do to the CHiefs is break our hearts and crush each of our current 5-year plans.
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He's talented as hell, but I think he's an asshole, and I don't think he'd accept being drafted by the Chiefs. I think he's pull and Eli and demand a trade. I just think he's that kind of kid. And all he's ever going to do to the CHiefs is break our hearts and crush each of our current 5-year plans.
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