Put Dorsey's Head On The Chopping Block

[Direckshun]

It is very, very early in John Dorsey's tenure here, but unless the talent he's acquired magically turns it around by midpoint of the season, I believe we should be shopping for a new GM by the end of the season.

Now, this is a big deal (I would like to think), coming from me. I was among the last defenders on this site of Scott Pioli, and I still think his drafting record here was strong. I believe in the process, in giving GMs extreme leeway and time in shuffling the roster and building a team full of the kind of guys we want.

But Dorsey came in with a plum opportunity. He had the core of a team already built for him (minus the one critical position), the #1 pick in the draft, and a ridiculous amount of free agency cap room to spend, spend, spend.

With these incredible gifts given to him, gifts that any new GM would kill for (rather than the shit sandwich a new GM would get in 2015...), Dorsey took the absolute worst path.

He sacrificed the future of the franchise for a quick playoff run, completely overpaying in offseason talent, hamstringing our budget for 2014 and 2015 so that we let a full quarter of our team's starters walk, including two Pro Bowlers, with zero ability to replace any of the departing talent effectively (with the sole exception of replacing Kendrick Lewis with Husain Abdullah, but even that was a Plan B after Mr. Glass Commings is out for another year).

We were unable to retain Brandon Albert, Brandon Flowers, Ryan Succop, Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCulster, Jon Asamoah and Geoff Schwartz because we had to have Mike DeVito, Chase Daniel, Dunta Robinson, Sean Smith, Donnie Avery, and Anthony Fasano. That is a complete loss on every level, and again, it happened because Dorsey acted like a teenager after receiving his first paycheck rather than the patient, methodical personnel guru he was alleged to be.

The Alex Smith trade was defensible on its own terms, I believe. (We overpayed with the two 2nds, but we overpayed for Bowe and Colquitt, and both of those were defensible as well, as the team was seriously ****ed without the player in question.) But coupled with the Chase Daniel acquisition and this team's continued chickenshit behavior regarding the QB position in the draft, and it once again showed a complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win in a league being skewed further and further away from the Alex Smiths and Matt Cassels of the world. In a league that's continually changing, Dorsey, Reid and Alex Smith are keeping the team stagnant.

Well, less than stagnant, really. The biggest crime of the young John Dorsey era has been the drafting, which has been horrific. It's every bit as obsessed with 40 times and measurables and ignorant of on field performance as the Al Davis regime used to be. We burned the #1 overall pick on a likely bust at tackle. We burned our first this year on a passrusher that isn't helping us win. We burned our third this year on a corner that was worse than Vince Agnew this preseason. And none of our low-round picks are working out, up to and including our UDFAs, where GMs need to distinguish themselves. It's insane to think that Scott Pioli had a better record with UDFAs, which is saying something considering that Pioli only hit on one his entire time here.

I do a ton of mock drafts throughout the year, most of them terrible, but all of them viscerally enjoyable for me to postulate. It's lost a lot of its luster this year, even as we are entering a year with 11 draft picks, because projecting the projects and boom/likely-bust players that Dorsey falls in love with makes the exercise depressing. We end up with a super-young team full of talent that can't see the field, and likely rarely ever will.

I'm willing to change my tune, as I always am, if some of this plan looks to be solid for the future, and not just for the present, by the middle of the season. But it would have to be a dramatic shift for me to feel that way.

That said, we can still end up in a good position here. The Alex Smith contract, which ironically is the best contract Dorsey has signed here, makes Smith expendable if a new GM is brought in at the end of the year. If Andy Reid still wants Alex Smith after a 4-12 season, fire him too. If Andy Reid can't get along with the new GM, fire him. If Andy Reid can't call a winning gameplan in 2015, fire him.

This front office refused to utilize their patience when constructing this roster. In the process, they've lost mine.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by New World Order

What depth? Where? We certainly don't have any depth at the MLB position.

Its all young and unproven, but theres depth.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by O.city

Its all young and unproven, but theres depth.

i heard this exact same thing about Scooters players back in 2010-2011 before they all fizzled out by 2013.

just because a young guy is on the roster doesn't mean he's good depth. Before you know they will be out the door just like all of Fat Scotts picks but 5.

[WhiteWhale]

This reminds me of my brother.

Back when KC hired herm, he pretty much stopped watching KC. As he said "Once Herm tanks this team, they're going to end up just like Detroit or Oakland... Picking in the top 10 most years and firing their head coaches and GM's every other year."

So... yeah.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by O.city

Its all young and unproven, but theres depth.

Like Nico Johnson; the guy from the practice squad?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

This reminds me of my brother.

Back when KC hired herm, he pretty much stopped watching KC. As he said "Once Herm tanks this team, they're going to end up just like Detroit or Oakland... Picking in the top 10 most years and firing their head coaches and GM's every other year."

So... yeah.

I don't care what anybody says. Herm deserves an apology. For God knows why, he still gets blamed for the reckless decisions made at the end of vermeils watch. Even if herm wasn't a good coach, he and kuharich built the team the right way. I really wish we could have seen what this team could have been if this team was passed on to better hands than Pioli. For instance, if we stuck with a 4-3...we were very close to having a potentially shutdown defense.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't care what anybody says. Herm deserves an apology. For God knows why, he still gets blamed for the reckless decisions made at the end of vermeils watch. Even if herm wasn't a good coach, he and kuharich built the team the right way. I really wish we could have seen what this team could have been if this team was passed on to better hands than Pioli. For instance, if we stuck with a 4-3...we were very close to having a potentially shutdown defense.

Id be interested in seeing what this team would be if it wasnt passed onto Dorsey

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't care what anybody says. Herm deserves an apology. For God knows why, he still gets blamed for the reckless decisions made at the end of vermeils watch. Even if herm wasn't a good coach, he and kuharich built the team the right way. I really wish we could have seen what this team could have been if this team was passed on to better hands than Pioli. For instance, if we stuck with a 4-3...we were very close to having a potentially shutdown defense.

O rly?

How did Tamba do in the 4/3 under Herm? I'll answer that question for you: he sucked ass.

[OldSchool]

You passed on this guy for Ford when we badly needed CB help. **** you Dorsey.



Verrett, while facing the Cardinals passing game, only allowed 3 receptions for a little over 20 yards and less than 2 YAC. He was the #2 rated corner in week 1. But no, we had to have Dee Ford who can't push for playing time.

[O.city]

Again, once Pioli's tenure fizzled, Herm's core was done and used up.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by New World Order

O rly?

How did Tamba do in the 4/3 under Herm? I'll answer that question for you: he sucked ass.

Hali didn't suck as in a 4-3.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i heard this exact same thing about Scooters players back in 2010-2011 before they all fizzled out by 2013.

just because a young guy is on the roster doesn't mean he's good depth. Before you know they will be out the door just like all of Fat Scotts picks but 5.

The thing we don't yet know about with this FO, is whether they can develop said draft picks.

As bad as Pioli's drafts were, his biggest problem was that he didn't have the people in place to develop them.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by O.city

Again, once Pioli's tenure fizzled, Herm's core was done and used up.

Dorsey walked into a great situation.

Give me a GM who inherited 7 pro bowl players and key positions that were already filled: LT, RB, 2 OLB, MLB, SS etc..

I've been waiting.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Id be interested in seeing what this team would be if it wasnt passed onto Dorsey

As of now I agree. But I'll give it sometime. He didn't walk into a bad situation but Pioli walked into as perfect a situation a gm could ask for (minus having a QB on the roster)

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by O.city

Again, once Pioli's tenure fizzled, Herm's core was done and used up.

Herms core is the only reason we even sniffed the playoffs last year

but now that core is done besides 1 guy, I agree. Last year not so much

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

There is no $45M guaranteed. The fact that you're unwilling to understand how contracts work doesn't suddenly reverse the objectivity of ****ing MATH.

Alex Smith got a signing of $18 million dollars. His salary for this year is $1M. THAT IS THE ONLY GUARANTEED MONEY. The Chiefs can CUT ALEX SMITH THIS OFFSEASON AND SAVE MONEY ON THE CAP.

It is not an albatross.

If they are in a position to draft a QB in the first round this year, they can do so and cut Alex Smith immediately, which will then accelerate his signing bonus to all on one year. That means the remainder (4 years @ $3.6M) would be $14.4M.

That is $1.2M less than his cap number next year. And guess what? Then he's off the books. Period. If they cut him post June 1, then his cap number is reduced from $15.6M next year to $3.6M. Then in 2016 his dead money cap number is $10.8M. Again, after that, he's completely off the books.

OH NOES HOW WILL WE EVER GET OUT FROM UNDER THIS HORRIBLE CONTRACT?! DORSEY YOU ARE SO UNBELIEVABLY STU....

oh. nevermind.

There are LEGITIMATE things to complain about, but when you start saying "every move Dorsey makes is reeruned derp derp!" it completely discredits the valid arguments. It's an argument of stupid fans who think there are only two kinds of GMs: Super Bowl winners and complete morons who have no business holding a job in professional sports.

So this part is not true?

The $18 million signing bonus and $1 million 2014 salary is fully guaranteed.

If he is on the roster on the third day of the 2015 league year (next March - very likely), his 2015 and 2016 salaries totaling $26 million become fully guaranteed, according to La Canfora's report.

If this is true than he will get that money. They aren't going to cut him unless they have someone in place and the draft doesn't happen until late April\early May.