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**Tribal Warfare** · 05-30-2013, 04:02 PM

Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday.

“He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’

Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers.

Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions.

Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released.

The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits.

That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief.

“He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’

Those intangibles were the unknown.

“I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work.

“When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’

In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs.

“It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’

The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans.

“It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’

Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice.

Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps.

“I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve.

“Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’

Coogs · 06-01-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte

So which would Harbaugh take no turnovers or 2 more 3rd down conversions?

What?

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 06-01-2013, 03:34 PM

and his Indian name is Spoons with dogs.

TheUte · 06-01-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

What?

The AS critics always want to blame the 3rd down conversions on the nfccg loss.

Which do you think Harbaugh would change if he could, the 2-TO's or the 2 more 3rd down conversions?

**SAUTO** · 06-01-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte

The AS critics always want to blame the 3rd down conversions on the nfccg loss.

Which do you think Harbaugh would change if he could, the 2-TO's or the 2 more 3rd down conversions?

Probably the eleven third down conversions. Anyone with sense hasn't been stuck on the two that caused the turnovers
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Coogs · 06-01-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte

The AS critics always want to blame the 3rd down conversions on the nfccg loss.

Which do you think Harbaugh would change if he could, the 2-TO's or the 2 more 3rd down conversions?

Since you quoted me, I am going to go with the 2 TO's on the punts. Had a 14-10 lead when the first one happened, and roughly only 10 minutes to play.

On the posession the 49ers had just prior to the Giants posession that resulted in the 1st touched punt, the 49ers had 3rd and 1. They ran the ball. Seems like a legit move to me. They just didn't make the yard. So they punted on 4th down. That's not on Smith IMO. Some here are suggesting that it is on Smith.

TheUte · 06-01-2013, 03:48 PM

To say that the 2 turnovers did not change that game is just crazy.

If you compare EM's to AS's stats from the QB's are very comparable.

The difference 2 TO's end of story.

Coogs · 06-01-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Probably the eleven third down conversions. Anyone with sense hasn't been stuck on the two that caused the turnovers
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All of those are not on Smith. Some? Maybe. Look at the play-by-play. It's not like Smith was responsible for all non 3rd down conversions.

Hell, he threw 73 and 20 some yard TD passes that had them up 14-10 and in good position to win prior to the first touched punt by Williams.

Most here seem to think the 49ers were winning in spite of Smith, not because of him.

That doesn't seem to be the case.

**cabletech94** · 06-01-2013, 04:03 PM

hey, does anyone still have a massive erection? or is it just me.

BlackHelicopters · 06-01-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94

hey, does anyone still have a massive erection? or is it just me.

Alex Smith will do that. I avoid these Smith threads usually because I can't control myself

**Ming the Merciless** · 06-01-2013, 05:56 PM

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milkman · 06-02-2013, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

All of those are not on Smith. Some? Maybe. Look at the play-by-play. It's not like Smith was responsible for all non 3rd down conversions.

Hell, he threw 73 and 20 some yard TD passes that had them up 14-10 and in good position to win prior to the first touched punt by Williams.

Most here seem to think the 49ers were winning in spite of Smith, not because of him.

That doesn't seem to be the case.

What you don't fully appreciate is the fact that the Giants, and Eli Manning, converted 3rd downs when they had to have them.
The 9ers, and Smith didn't.

Bottom line, 1 for 13, the 1 conversion a meaningless one to end the first half, is on the QB.

Coogs · 06-02-2013, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

What you don't fully appreciate is the fact that the Giants, and Eli Manning, converted 3rd downs when they had to have them.
The 9ers, and Smith didn't.

Bottom line, 1 for 13, the 1 conversion a meaningless one to end the first half, is on the QB.

They actually converted two. One early in the 2nd quarter, and one at the end of regulation.

And not all of the non-conversions fall directly at the feet of Smith. Not by a long shot.

Look, I am not saying Smith is the answer. I have questions too. I was on the Geno bandwagon. I got over it a week or so before the draft actually when it became obvious he wasn't going to be wearing R&G.

Last season I wanted 3 things. Cassel out. ***** out. RAC out. Got all three of them. All-in-all, it is pretty hard for me to complain about anything right now since I had myy wish list filled out.

Smith is going to get a free pass from me for a while. Dorsey too. Reid? Yep.

Now if it turns out to be the same ol' song and dance we have seen in the past, then I will crawl back on the same shit/different year bandwagon and start complaining just like the rest of you all.

But not just yet. I want to see how it plays out. I think we could be pleasently surprised when it is all said and done.

**bevischief** · 06-02-2013, 06:25 AM

No hitting the QB don't care. Show me.

**ptlyon** · 06-02-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Alex Smith will do that. I avoid these Smith threads usually because I can't control myself

Had no idea you liked to bite the pillow

milkman · 06-02-2013, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

They actually converted two. One early in the 2nd quarter, and one at the end of regulation.

And not all of the non-conversions fall directly at the feet of Smith. Not by a long shot.

Look, I am not saying Smith is the answer. I have questions too. I was on the Geno bandwagon. I got over it a week or so before the draft actually when it became obvious he wasn't going to be wearing R&G.

Last season I wanted 3 things. Cassel out. ***** out. RAC out. Got all three of them. All-in-all, it is pretty hard for me to complain about anything right now since I had myy wish list filled out.

Smith is going to get a free pass from me for a while. Dorsey too. Reid? Yep.

Now if it turns out to be the same ol' song and dance we have seen in the past, then I will crawl back on the same shit/different year bandwagon and start complaining just like the rest of you all.

But not just yet. I want to see how it plays out. I think we could be pleasently surprised when it is all said and done.

This isn't about Geno Smith.
This is about Alex Smith.

We might be pleasantly surprised.
But it is highly unlikely.

He's had 7 years to prove he's something other than a mediocre game manager, and he hasn't.

Maybe he's that one in a million guy, but I ain't holding my breath.

05-30-2013, 04:02 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $362813	Teicher:Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith Chiefs like what they’ve seen so far from QB Alex Smith By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The trade for quarterback Alex Smith might take another year or more to adequately assess, but at least from their part, the Chiefs may not feel the need to wait. Quarterbacks coach Matt Nagy came close to calling it a success after practice Thursday. “He’s been everything that we thought he was,’’ Nagy said of Smith. “He’s a true professional. He’s in his (playbook) every day. He’s always asking questions, trying to get better. He’s being a leader for the other (quarterbacks) as well.’’ Smith, like the other Chiefs quarterbacks, has had his successes and failures on the practice field. He is learning a new offensive system under a new set of coaches and throwing to a new set of receivers. Smith and his teammates are prohibited under NFL rules from working in pads, so at this time of year, practice is conducted at something less than full speed, and a better quarterback evaluation is generally done at training camp, when teams are allowed to hold padded practice sessions. Most teams are generally pleased with their quarterbacks at this stage, when there is no defensive pressure for them to worry about. The Chiefs, for instance, were content with Matt Cassel at a similar point after trading for him in 2009. Once the games began, Cassel never developed into the player they thought he could become, and in March he was released. The Chiefs believe they already have an accurate grasp of what Smith is capable of in a physical regard, having watched on tape all of his games as a starter with the San Francisco 49ers. But none of their key offensive figures, including Nagy, coordinator Doug Pederson or coach Andy Reid, who will call the plays, had any experience with Smith, so they weren’t certain what they would get from their new starting quarterback in terms of preparation and work habits. That part of Smith’s game has provided them with some relief. “He’s comfortable with what we’re doing,’’ Pederson said. “He’s understanding the terminology, and he’s orchestrating that at the line of scrimmage. We’re really pleased with where he’s at right now.’’ Those intangibles were the unknown. “I’m with him every single day,’’ Nagy said. “Just talking X’s and O’s and past experiences he’s had, he brings some good things to our attention as a staff. He has a lot of valuable experience. He’s been through a lot. Having those experiences and coming in here to a team with a new staff, it’s been an awesome experience. Throughout this process, we’re taking in what he has, he’s taking in what we have, and we’re putting it all together and trying to make this work. “When he’s out here on the practice field, he’s a leader. The guys look to him. The quarterback position is so important to be that leader, whether it’s vocally or by your play. He does both of that. Having him be able to do that and have some of these younger guys look up to him, that’s what we need, and that’s what we expected he’d have and he does have that.’’ In return for Smith, the Chiefs sent their second-round pick in this year’s draft plus a third-rounder next year that converts to a second if they win eight or more games this season. Smith would be worth any price if he becomes the long-term solution at a position that has been most elusive for the Chiefs. “It’s been great,’’ Smith said of his first few practices with the Chiefs. “It’s been football. I’ve been itching for this for a long time. I was sitting there watching a lot of football at the end of last year. I’ve said this before: This is what I wanted, and now it’s here. I’m just trying to make the most of it.’’ The Chiefs also signed former Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel to be Smith’s backup, even though he’s thrown only nine passes in four seasons behind Drew Brees for New Orleans. “It’s evident he’s been with such a great quarterback in Drew,’’ Nagy said. “He comes in and he’s very cerebral with the protections. He understands the game and he’s a competitor. He pushed Drew Brees every day in practice, and that’s what he’s going to do here with Alex.’’ Ricky Stanzi and rookie Tyler Bray are the other quarterbacks. Stanzi, who has been with the Chiefs for two seasons without getting into a regular-season game, began the offseason as the third quarterback, a significant fact this time of year only because he will get more snaps in practice. Bray and Stanzi have since flipped spots, with Bray getting more practice snaps. “I want to see each guy every day getting better,’’ Nagy said. “If one is a little bit behind the other, I want to see who that is and I want to see if he’s going to improve. Is he getting better? If he’s going backwards, that’s not what we want. Let’s see him improve. “Let’s not put them against each other right now. Let’s just see where they’re at individually, and if you get better, that’s great. We’ll go from there.’’
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