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Who is our #2 WR? As of right now it is Avant. Conley might take that place by mid season. MIGHT
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Beating our passing game wouldn't be that hard. Double Maclin, force Alex to throw to scrubs or the Rookie, and wait for questionable line to give up sack...
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A defense doesn't have to shut them down. Reid does that all by himself...
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Do you remember Avant's production against the Chargers?.....I do.....1 catch, 7 yards. That's why i don't value Avant's role in this offense.
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Thread about Da'Rick Rogers immediately devolves into six page argument about jason avant. ****ing CP...
I want to talk about Dee Ford, so I think I will start a thread about Doug Pederson. And for the record, Jason Avant has value. A 32 year old vet who has NEVER relied on speed is different than a guy whose skill set is slipping with age. Hines Ward is the prime example. BTW the term possession receiver means a guy whose prime value comes as a guy who will catch the ball and hang onto it. If you need six yards, he will be six yards downfield and catch the ball. Others might get open with running lanes or take the top off the defense or advance the ball after the catch. Possession guys don't. I know many think that makes them shitty players and great ones can do the same thing while providing other skills. A fair point, for sure. In a vacuum, there is nothing wrong with having ONE guy inyour corps with this skill set, especially when he is helping young guys become pros. Specifically for the Chiefs, whose roster spot would avant be taking that right now you can say is categorically better while providing the same skill set? I mean, yes... Best case scenario is that he doesn't make the team, because there are better receivers behind him. But going into training camp, how valuable is this guy? If Hammond is going to ascend, having avant to train with will be helpful, if even just through the preseason. And people need to recognize the difference between teaching and coaching. Leading by example as a player is very different than explaining or demanding as a coach. If jason avant makes this team, it won't be terrible. It won't be the end of the season. If he doesn't make this team, fantastic. It means young guys are bringing the kind of consistency to their game that he offers, while also having more physical ability and potential. Where, exactly, is the problem? |
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Avant is a slot receiver, not a #2 outside receiver. As of today, Maclin and Wilson are #1 & #2 although that's subject to change in training camp. At no point should Avant be anything above a #4 option, if not #5. |
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06-17-2015, 01:11 PM | #176 |
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Wasn't avant outside last year?
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82 of his 102 routes run were in the slot.
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That's interesting. I don't remember much of him in the slot. Are those all pass plays or runs included?
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Remember this isn't just about the specific WR. Alex Smith and his tendencies have to be calculated in there as well. You are cross talking options and position depths also. Just because Avant may be behind Maclin, Kelce, and Charles doesn't make him the #4 WR. It makes him the #4 option, which is still the #2 WR in terms of targets, catches, and etc.
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