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Old 02-13-2016, 01:12 AM  
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***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread***

  • 2011 World Series Championship
  • 2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
  • 2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
  • 2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
  • 2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • 67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:16 AM   #1741
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are you kidding? Puig is as far from being a "Cardinal" type player as anyone in baseball. Molina and Waino wouldn't tolerate his shit for a single day.
That's kinda the point.

The Cardinals need a right-handed run producer. Yasiel Puig has the ability to fill that role and then some. The Cardinals could also use a little bit of energy and attitude.

They don't need to be the Dodgers, mind you, but your statement is accurate and exactly why the Cardinals should take a chance on him. Molina and Waino won't tolerate his shit, no. And that exactly why he might work; it's exactly what he needs to perhaps capitalize on the talent you know he has.

If you're the D-Rays or the Twins and have a clubhouse full of impressionable kids, you don't bring on Puig. But if you have an established clubhouse full of guys that have gone through the wars together and have been to the top of the mountain (knocking Puig off on the way), then precisely what are you worried about?

If Yasiel Puig can come into this clubhouse and 'infect' it, then the clubhouse was shit to begin with.

Mike Matheny can't do a goddamn thing to actually help this team win ballgames between the white lines. He's an idiot who has the tactical acumen of a golden retriever. I keep getting sold this "Mike Matheny: Leader of Men" bill of goods and frankly, I've not seen it. Okay, Mikey - prove me wrong. If you actually run a tight ship and your skills as a manager manifest themselves in your interpersonal skills, then this is your wheelhouse right here.

This team isn't as good as Chicago and if they hope to be, they need to take a chance and have it hit. There's no more justifiable risk in baseball right now than Yasiel Puig. The talent is there to be exactly what Oscar Taveras was supposed to be. The leadership in the clubhouse is evidently there (or so I'm told by the Matheny supporters).

Go get him. Frankly, it should've been done yesterday.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:20 AM   #1742
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Where do you play Puig in stl? Center?
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:30 AM   #1743
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Where do you play Puig in stl? Center?
Not entirely sure, honestly.

Depends a lot on the hamstrings. Yes, I think he can play CF no worse than Grichuk but the hammys are worrisome. Personally, I think the injury risk in CF isn't much greater than in the corners because you don't have to worry much about stopping when you go hammering into the corners. That's why I always thought it was silly to play JD Drew in the corners to 'protect' his knees. That said, hamstrings are a bit of an outlier there. CF is going to encourage you to turn on the jets to get into the gaps and that'e exactly where one of those may grab on you.

My first inclination would be to put him in CF, yes. If the hamstrings start barking, I guess I put Piscotty back out there. The bottom line is that Grichuk isn't much of a defender anyway, nor is Wong. We just saw Pham flat out 'dumb' us into a loss. The team doesn't have a person that can play credible CF anyway so might as well run Piscotty out there to at least play nominally intelligent CF.

There's nothing that can be done to this team to make it a good defensive ballclub. At best, you're seeking average and hoping that your starting pitching does a better job with run prevention (and some batted ball luck at the right time should you make it to October). The Cards won in 2011 by simply bludgeoning teams into submission. If they want to win this year, that may be their only path.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:36 AM   #1745
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Not entirely sure, honestly.

Depends a lot on the hamstrings. Yes, I think he can play CF no worse than Grichuk but the hammys are worrisome. Personally, I think the injury risk in CF isn't much greater than in the corners because you don't have to worry much about stopping when you go hammering into the corners. That's why I always thought it was silly to play JD Drew in the corners to 'protect' his knees. That said, hamstrings are a bit of an outlier there. CF is going to encourage you to turn on the jets to get into the gaps and that'e exactly where one of those may grab on you.

My first inclination would be to put him in CF, yes. If the hamstrings start barking, I guess I put Piscotty back out there. The bottom line is that Grichuk isn't much of a defender anyway, nor is Wong. We just saw Pham flat out 'dumb' us into a loss. The team doesn't have a person that can play credible CF anyway so might as well run Piscotty out there to at least play nominally intelligent CF.

There's nothing that can be done to this team to make it a good defensive ballclub. At best, you're seeking average and hoping that your starting pitching does a better job with run prevention (and some batted ball luck at the right time should you make it to October). The Cards won in 2011 by simply bludgeoning teams into submission. If they want to win this year, that may be their only path.
Yeah, I don't see much option other than that. We've been pretty unlucky thus far in regards to batted ball luck and overall, but they're gonna have to win that way.

Hindsight 2020, but knowing that grichuk was gonna suck, I wish they'd have kept Bourjos in center and could potentially have an outfield of Puig in left, Bourjos in center and Piscotty in right in the future. Hypothetically speaking.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:44 AM   #1746
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Puig hasn't adjusted to hard inside, soft away. He's dumb as shit, he's gotten worse every year in the league, and he is probably the worst teammate in baseball.

And the Cardinals have not been that unlucky in batted ball luck. They lead baseball in RISP average.
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Puig hasn't adjusted to hard inside, soft away. He's dumb as shit, he's gotten worse every year in the league, and he is probably the worst teammate in baseball.

And the Cardinals have not been that unlucky in batted ball luck. They lead baseball in RISP average.
A person with his raw strength and relatively little loft in his swing may actually benefit from what Mabry teaches. If he could actually get Puig focusing up the middle, Puig's strength is enough to be a 20 HR hitter than can adjust bo both hard in and soft away.

You have to take the chance on the talent when you're facing a legitimate talent gap. The Cardinals aren't going to get over the hump by throwing Harrison Bader to the wolves. Guys like Paul DeJong aren't going to save this team.

We all know that the Cardinals won't do it. That said, the way they handle Matheny is starting to look more and more like the way they 'utilized' Duncan in his last few years. Rather than look for undervalued assets that they could allow Duncan to mold into the pitch to contact mavens he preferred, they just went out and paid retail for guys that already did what Duncan liked. Well what's the !@#$ing point then?

If you swear up and down that your idiot manager's strengths are that he's a people person and then you do nothing but populate your roster with boy scouts, exactly what !@#$ing purpose does Mike Matheny serve? This is EXACTLY the situation where Matheny and Mabry could actually prove their worth.
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10 in a row against the two worst teams in the NL coming up. Be a nice opportunity to pad some wins.
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10 in a row against the two worst teams in the NL coming up. Be a nice opportunity to pad some wins.
We need to win 8.
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What happened? I turned it off after fatass walked the second batter.
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What happened? I turned it off after fatass walked the second batter.
Bunt that Adams fielded and made a poor throw to first.

Both fattasses taken out in double switch and Oh just got out of the jam.
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Yeah the Cards have 1 reliever worth a shit. Actually I kind of like Bowman, no idea why Broxton gets the nod over him.
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