***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by TLO

Just watched the daily press conference from Missouri. There were ZERO reported cases from the state lab today. They are talking about things starting to POSSIBLY flatten out some in Missouri as of now.

That's great news.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

So it turns out this video is entirely fraudulent. https://t.co/2axIrXK4LA
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) April 6, 2020

Gee what a shock!

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

It will be a cold day in hell before I watch anything associated with Jimmy Kimmel.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ghak99

I'm not sure where to put this, but the packing plant world has some serious rumblings going on in multiple locations. The pack scoured the country and overpaid in multiple regions last week as if they were preparing for something to happen next week. Multiple beef lines are demanding hazard pay and appear to be willing to walk all at once. Multiple pork plants are already scaled back to ~50 of capacity due to worker concerns. If even half of the rumors are true and one side or the other does't cave soon, supply lines could be interrupted while they sort it out.

After seeing how ignorant people got in the last few weeks, it probably wouldn't hurt to put some beef and pork in your freezer if you're getting low and don't want to miss a grilling.

I read somewhere that it's a SERIOUS supply chain issue.

Major meat suppliers are used to sending a bunch of this stuff to restaurants and when that pipe went dry, they couldn't just get sales contracts/infrastructure in place with grocery stores and wholesale distributors overnight.

That's why we're still seeing shortages in supermarkets - the actual processors oftentimes have a limited relationship with those guys. So they have meat/animals that were essentially earmarked for restaurant use and no real way to funnel it to grocery stores for consumer purchase.

Just another of the 'well ****, we didn't think of that...' results of just turning an economy off overnight.

The disease of "why can't you just..." has created a whole lot of brain rot.

[BigRedChief]

Remember the shots of Venice where you could see the bottom of the canals and Dolphins playing for the first time ever. Welllll

These pics are NOT the Carribean or the Bahamas. This is Miami. It’s been only 2 1/2 weeks since they closed the beaches here & while our beaches are always beautiful, this week the color & clarity of the water DAZZLED. It legit took my breath away. This should give us all pause pic.twitter.com/L3330vUliE

— Louis Aguirre (@LOUISAGUIRRE) April 5, 2020

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Remember the shots of Venice where you could see the bottom of the canals and Dolphins playing for the first time ever. Welllll

These pics are NOT the Carribean or the Bahamas. This is Miami. It’s been only 2 1/2 weeks since they closed the beaches here & while our beaches are always beautiful, this week the color & clarity of the water DAZZLED. It legit took my breath away. This should give us all pause pic.twitter.com/L3330vUliE

— Louis Aguirre (@LOUISAGUIRRE) April 5, 2020

So what have we learned? People are a drain on the environment and the ocean because we're good at ****ing shit up.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You watched the man show don't lie.

Back when he was a comedian? Sure.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So what have we learned? People are a drain on the environment and the ocean because we're good at ****ing shit up.

we are the dominant species on the earth. It’s our sandbox.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I'm glad I could entertain you, I guess.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Back when he was a comedian? Sure.

Exactly.

[Titty Meat]

According to officials with the Unified Government of Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas, there are 26 total COVID-19 cases at the Riverbend Post Acute Rehabilitation Center, and three people have died.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

we are the dominant species on the earth. It’s our litter box.

FYP

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

According to officials with the Unified Government of Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas, there are 26 total COVID-19 cases at the Riverbend Post Acute Rehabilitation Center, and three people have died.

This thing gets into nursing homes and it just wreaks havoc.

I wonder if this is ripping through their short term or long term care facilities.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I read somewhere that it's a SERIOUS supply chain issue.

Major meat suppliers are used to sending a bunch of this stuff to restaurants and when that pipe went dry, they couldn't just get sales contracts/infrastructure in place with grocery stores and wholesale distributors overnight.

That's why we're still seeing shortages in supermarkets - the actual processors oftentimes have a limited relationship with those guys. So they have meat/animals that were essentially earmarked for restaurant use and no real way to funnel it to grocery stores for consumer purchase.

Just another of the 'well ****, we didn't think of that...' results of just turning an economy off overnight.

The disease of "why can't you just..." has created a whole lot of brain rot.

This sums up the dairy issues precisely. Tens of thousands of gallons of raw milk are being dumped into pits and spread on the ground as fertilizer while shelves all across the country remain near empty while being rationed. In the midst of all this some producers are even being paid to quit, forever.

It's a little more complicated with beef and pork. The workers in the plants themselves are going to cause the supply chain issue on top of what you described. Inspectors want hazard pay, workers are moving that direction as well, and now that plants are finding positive cases in line workers shit could hit the fan fast.

Canadian growers have already been warned to expect US plants to tell them to get ****ed via very rarely used contract clauses as the plants cut back to 50% of line production.

There's way more to it, but consumers might get a bit of a shock if very many of the lines get halted for very long.

[BWillie]

Remember when just about everyone in the thread was saying this was no big deal?

It's just the flu bro. I was hopeful that was just the case, too, at least for younger people when I first started digging through Chinese pandemic statistics. Unfortunately it isn't.

Do you still believe it's no big deal?

On average 15,000 to 40,000 people die every year in the USA from flu-like illnesses and complications.

This thing has already taken 11,000 and there is no end in sight. This is after all of the precautions, social distancing and shit we've done. 100,000+ are going to die in the USA of this on our current trajectory even accounting for the extreme measures we've put in place.

Thank god we didn't listen to you all or millions would end up dying instead of thousands. This is why you listen to doctors and infectious disease experts.

If any of you still think this is no big deal? Then you are ignorant and there is no helping you.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Remember when just about everyone in the thread was saying this was no big deal?

It's just the flu bro. I was hopeful that was just the case, too, at least for younger people when I first started digging through Chinese pandemic statistics. Unfortunately it isn't.

Do you still believe it's no big deal?

On average 15,000 to 40,000 people die every year in the USA from flu-like illnesses and complications.

This thing has already taken 11,000 and there is no end in sight. This is after all of the precautions, social distancing and shit we've done. 100,000+ are going to die in the USA of this on our current trajectory even accounting for the extreme measures we've put in place.

Thank god we didn't listen to you all or millions would end up dying instead of thousands. This is why you listen to doctors and infectious disease experts.

If any of you still think this is no big deal? Then you are ignorant and there is no helping you.

Anyone claiming to know what IT is right now is ignorant. Serology might show us 100+ million had it. Who knows, but I know I dont and YOU dont.

So yeah it could STILL be very much like the flu.