***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[2112]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/marklevinenyc/st...171741696?s=21

Pretty rough thread

Brutal

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Pants

Huh?

There are experts in the fields of Virology and Epidemiology. What are you asking exactly?

Are you expecting there to be experts for each of the millions of viruses out there in the wild?

I’m expecting the news stations to stop calling Fauci a Coronavirus expert. It’s misleading. I know what his field is. Why add Coronavirus expert to the title on all of these headlines? There is no such thing as a Coronavirus expert. Plain and simple, yet the US thinks they have one somehow.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

So apparently they’re gonna have to start burying people in New York parks

**** that’s not gonna be easy

They probably should be cremating people for a situation like this.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/marklevinenyc/st...171741696?s=21

Pretty rough thread

Yeah that is pretty tough to read.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They probably should be cremating people for a situation like this.

We aren’t communist you jerk

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

We aren’t communist you jerk

I didn't know the act of cremation was communist....

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Infectious disease docs are pretty much the top of the intelligent food chain. They’re know their shit

Dr Fauci is working 19-20 hour days right now and his wife has to remind him to sleep and drink. Usually he works 15-hour days. Also, normally he runs 7-miles a day, right now he is down to 3.5 miles. He is 79-years-old and still running like that! Pretty amazing!

He clearly isn't doing what he does to get rich. He enjoys helping people and enjoys his field. He is a different kind of person. Gotta respect his dedication.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

I’m expecting the news stations to stop calling Fauci a Coronavirus expert. It’s misleading. I know what his field is. Why add Coronavirus expert to the title on all of these headlines? There is no such thing as a Coronavirus expert. Plain and simple, yet the US thinks they have one somehow.

It's not misleading. Coronaviruses have been around a long time.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/marklevinenyc/st...171741696?s=21

Pretty rough thread

NYC’s healthcare system is being pushed to the limit.

And sadly, now so is the city’s system for managing our dead. And it, too, needs more resources.

This has big implications for grieving families. And for all of us. 1/

— Mark D. Levine (@MarkLevineNYC) April 6, 2020

Impossible. I was just told earlier in this thread our hospitals are fine.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

Even if you try to open it back up, if you can’t make people feel safe and that they aren’t at risk of infection it won’t really matter

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's probably years away. You are chasing unicorns there my man.

Really? Were you alive for 9/11? Remember how the public reacted? You are seriously underestimating the American public's "fear" portion on how we get out of this mess.

The chance of getting killed in a terrorist attack was so minuscule but they still stayed at home. Since 9/11, foreign-born terrorists have killed roughly one American per year.

Someone can look it up but the chance of getting coronavirus and dying is a helluva lot higher than one person per year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Really? Were you alive for 9/11? Remember how the public reacted? You are seriously underestimating the American public's "fear" portion on how we get out of this mess.

The chance of getting killed in a terrorist attack was so minuscule but they still stayed at home. Since 9/11, foreign-born terrorists have killed roughly one American per year.

Someone can look it up but the chance of getting coronavirus and dying is a helluva lot higher than one person per year.

I hope we don't get a, you must go shopping or the virus wins, speech.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by penguinz

NYC’s healthcare system is being pushed to the limit.

And sadly, now so is the city’s system for managing our dead. And it, too, needs more resources.

This has big implications for grieving families. And for all of us. 1/

— Mark D. Levine (@MarkLevineNYC) April 6, 2020

Impossible. I was just told earlier in this thread our hospitals are fine.

Because they are, using NY as your example doesn't make your argument any stronger.

The VAST majority of hospitals in our country are fine. I mean thats just the numbers but what ever....

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Because they are, using NY as your example doesn't make your argument any stronger.

The VAST majority of hospitals in our country are fine. I mean thats just the numbers but what ever....

Like New York hospitals were fine when it was peaking in Italy.

You’re using your own argument against yourself. It’s not likely to peak everywhere at the same time

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/marklevinenyc/st...171741696?s=21

Pretty rough thread

I'm having a really hard time following his math.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by O.city

Like New York hospitals were fine when it was peaking in Italy.

You’re using your own argument against yourself. It’s not likely to peak everywhere at the same time

I'm not saying that, but we are not maxing out our hospitals capacity or ventilators as country. That was my point meaning we have the resources to fight this.

We can move those resources as time goes on as well.