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Old 02-13-2016, 01:12 AM  
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***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread***
  • 2011 World Series Championship
  • 2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
  • 2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
  • 2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
  • 2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • 67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.
SI article on our off season, Gives us a "A". ??:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/02/12/win...ouis-cardinals

2015 III thread:
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2015 II thread:
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:08 PM   #1681
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it was my reverse psychology. 😉 Still think they should sell. But my money is on Mo picking up a set-up man & calling it good.
Mo would rightfully get run out of town if you sell when you're one game back in the Wild Card. This isn't the best season we've seen, but it also isn't the disaster some would have you believe.
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:18 PM   #1682
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I also just read Lynn could be ready to go by September. He could be a decent addition to the bullpen, if healthy.
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:21 PM   #1683
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Looks like the Cardinals will be on Sunday night baseball August 14th.

Definitely gonna have to go to that game as well. Aren't night games at Wrigley kind of rare?
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:23 PM   #1684
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Looks like the Cardinals will be on Sunday night baseball August 14th.

Definitely gonna have to go to that game as well. Aren't night games at Wrigley kind of rare?
They are only allotted a certain number per year, but I think they worked out more with the neighborhood association as part of the renovation.
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Mo would rightfully get run out of town if you sell when you're one game back in the Wild Card. This isn't the best season we've seen, but it also isn't the disaster some would have you believe.
No they dont have to sell but they dont need to give up pieces of the future for a better chance in the playoffs this year.

We throw Waino or Martinez in the wildcard. We get a home run or two. We are in the NLDS. We get our asses handed to us by the Cubs again. That would be expected. No one is going to be upset.

We give up one of our #7-10 prospects for some 6th inning reliever guy, I think people would be pissed.They are still upset about the Moss trade.
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No they dont have to sell but they dont need to give up pieces of the future for a better chance in the playoffs this year.

We throw Waino or Martinez in the wildcard. We get a home run or two. We are in the NLDS. We get our asses handed to us by the Cubs again. That would be expected. No one is going to be upset.

We give up one of our #7-10 prospects for some 6th inning reliever guy, I think people would be pissed.They are still upset about the Moss trade.
More correctly, people are upset about Moe's recent tendency to continue giving up solid pieces for JAGs rather than actually get something worthwhile back. The Moss trade was simply the most glaring recent example and came at a time when the team had an obvious problem that it failed to address.

With what they gave up to get Justin Masterson, Jonathan Broxton and Brandon Moss over the last 2 years, they could've added to it just a bit to get Cespedes and actually had someone on the roster that would've mattered last year.

Though at this point you're absolutely right - I'd prefer he just sit it out.

I'm not opposed to aggressive moves; I applauded the Holliday trade and the Heyward trade. I'm opposed to half-measures and/or a failure to recognize where your team is situated.
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More correctly, people are upset about Moe's recent tendency to continue giving up solid pieces for JAGs rather than actually get something worthwhile back. The Moss trade was simply the most glaring recent example and came at a time when the team had an obvious problem that it failed to address.

With what they gave up to get Justin Masterson, Jonathan Broxton and Brandon Moss over the last 2 years, they could've added to it just a bit to get Cespedes and actually had someone on the roster that would've mattered last year.

Though at this point you're absolutely right - I'd prefer he just sit it out.

I'm not opposed to aggressive moves; I applauded the Holliday trade and the Heyward trade. I'm opposed to half-measures and/or a failure to recognize where your team is situated.
I completely agree. No need to sell out to try to make a playoff push. But the idea that we should be sellers is laughable, even if we lose these first two games to Miami.
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If someone came calling for a piece and you could get a haul for it, I wouldn't immediately dismiss it.
Garcia is a perfect fit for Texas and their system makes them a great trade partner.

With Lynn coming back next year and Reyes/Weaver knocking on the door (let alone Lyons and Cooney), Garcia's movable and there are teams that would give a quality piece for a lefty who's shown knockout stuff and has a year of team control left.

It would be absurd not to sell if anything appreciable could be had. This isn't a championship caliber team.
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I completely agree. No need to sell out to try to make a playoff push. But the idea that we should be sellers is laughable, even if we lose these first two games to Miami.
Get in the playoffs and you never know.

We beat arguably the best closer in the game last night. Had saved 52 straight games without a blown one or loss and it was ****ing Wong with the deciding hit. Who saw that coming?
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That was a weird sequence of events.

Looked like a balk to me.

Hope that doesn't bite us in the ass today.
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Set up men at the trade deadline can cost you a #1 pick. They are expensive. In the off season they are a dime a dozen.
Unfortunately, it's necessary now. IMO-standing pat is worse than selling. This team simply isn't good enough to win in the playoffs as they're currently constructed.
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That was a weird sequence of events.

Looked like a balk to me.

Hope that doesn't bite us in the ass today.
that was a balk. The crew chief overruled his umpire. After the game admitted he was wrong.

On the positive side, We have won 3-4 on the road against possible playoff teams.
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