Chiefs I'm not even excited for the playoffs after tonight... - Page 11

CoMoChief · 12-23-2018, 11:19 PM

Same 'ol shit...gonna be 1 n done. Can't have a defense this bad and win in Jan..we've seen this movie before and we know how it ends.

Did the Chiefs even force a punt at all?

Not even Mahomes can overcome this teams' defensive woes.

No QB can.

**Baby Lee** · 12-27-2018, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I’d rather be 12-4 than 13-3 and in the AFC.

Different question, much different metrics.

12-4 v 13-3 is a Chiefs specific bit of superstition

Marcel mocked being flabbergasted that for the first time in history a fanbase is questioning the playoff preparedness of a #1 seed, suggesting it was the unique result of this particular perverted and anomalously jaded BB fanbase.

Halfcan · 12-27-2018, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF

Do you really think that matters? We are 2-3 in the last 5 wks and we have been sloppy through much of it. It's not just our defense that is struggling either. The entire team has looked messy for most of December. Without Watkins are passing game isn't dominant, without Hunt our running game hasn't been dominant. The injuries along the offensive line might even be the bigger issue for our running game but Hunt usually made a couple of stud plays each game. Hunt is also still 4th in receiving yards with 350 YAC. I can't believe a star burnt out that fast.

We are backing into the playoffs.

Incorrect- If we Win against the Faders (we will) - then we will be In the 1st seed. That is Not backing into the playoffs.

Steelers have to win and have other teams lose just to make it.

Backing IN- means you have to rely on the outcome of other games.

htismaqe · 12-27-2018, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Different question, much different metrics.

12-4 v 13-3 is a Chiefs specific bit of superstition

Marcel mocked being flabbergasted that for the first time in history a fanbase is questioning the playoff preparedness of a #1 seed, suggesting it was the unique result of this particular perverted and anomalously jaded BB fanbase.

It most certainly isn’t Chiefs superstition if you actually look at it. Only 2 AFC QBs have ever advanced to the SB after going 13-3. The Chiefs don’t even have the worst “13-3” history in the AFC.

Marcellus · 12-27-2018, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Different question, much different metrics.

12-4 v 13-3 is a Chiefs specific bit of superstition

Marcel mocked being flabbergasted that for the first time in history a fanbase is questioning the playoff preparedness of a #1 seed, suggesting it was the unique result of this particular perverted and anomalously jaded BB fanbase.

No I mocked the concept we are "backing in to the playoffs." It appears that certain people including yourself are lost on what that phrase actually means.

**Baby Lee** · 12-27-2018, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

No I mocked the concept we are "backing in to the playoffs." It appears that certain people including yourself are lost on what that phrase actually means.

No, it appears that you have a singularly literal meaning you attribute to it, and rather than accede the broader consensus you chose to attempt to belittle the intelligence of those who don't subscribe to your narrow literal meaning.

If you find a CPBB poster who legitimately thinks that the Chiefs are in danger of not making the playoffs at all, and are relying on week 17 fortune in other games to secure a currently unsecured spot, I'll grant that that poster is lacking intelligence.

My sense is that most people who use the colloquialism 'backing into the playoffs' are referring to the Chiefs apparent ill-preparedness for playoff level competition, even though they have objectively qualified due to their regular season record.

**Baby Lee** · 12-27-2018, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Incorrect- If we Win against the Faders (we will) - then we will be In the 1st seed. That is Not backing into the playoffs.

Steelers have to win and have other teams lose just to make it.

Backing IN- means you have to rely on the outcome of other games.

If you want to be hyper-grammatical, entering the playoffs due to late fortune in the outcome of other games is backdooring a spot in the playoffs. Backing into the playoffs can refer to any entry into the playoff period on something other than putting your best foot forward.

htismaqe · 12-27-2018, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

If you want to be hyper-grammatical, entering the playoffs due to late fortune in the outcome of other games is backdooring a spot in the playoffs. Backing into the playoffs can refer to any entry into the playoff period on something other than putting your best foot forward.

Like the Ravens? Oh wait.

Marcellus · 12-27-2018, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

If you want to be hyper-grammatical, entering the playoffs due to late fortune in the outcome of other games is backdooring a spot in the playoffs. Backing into the playoffs can refer to any entry into the playoff period on something other than putting your best foot forward.

By that measure many teams are backing into the playoffs which is ridiculous.

You know what most often determines the best teams in the playoffs? Health.

By that measure we are getting better and solidifying our chances.

htismaqe · 12-27-2018, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

By that measure many teams are backing into the playoffs

Nope, only the Chiefs. Please refer to the appropriate section of your Chiefsplanet Lexicon.

Red Dawg · 12-27-2018, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Incorrect- If we Win against the Faders (we will) - then we will be In the 1st seed. That is Not backing into the playoffs.

Steelers have to win and have other teams lose just to make it.

Backing IN- means you have to rely on the outcome of other games.

Nobody ever backs into the playoffs. You win more games than others, that's not backing in.

Gravedigger · 12-27-2018, 10:08 AM

I'll admit going 3-3 in the last 6 games heading into the post season, with one of those games being a miracle play by Mahomes and Hill and the other two wins being against one of the worst teams in the NFL, doesn't inspire alot of confidence. Andy is going to have to shake some demons off this postseason and be a little unconventional by his normal ways in order to make a Superbowl run. I like how people are getting healthy with Berry, Larry and Watkins seemingly playing in our first playoff game.

**Baby Lee** · 12-27-2018, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like the Ravens? Oh wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

By that measure many teams are backing into the playoffs which is ridiculous.

You know what most often determines the best teams in the playoffs? Health.

By that measure we are getting better and solidifying our chances.

Is this really that hard, or are some people being obstinate and contrarian just to foment dissent?

The playoffs have ALWAYS been a momentum game.

Yes, every year plenty of teams 'back into' the playoffs because they aren't performing at playoff level when the time for the playoffs comes. And yes every year some teams are in prime playoff shape when the time for playoffs comes, but have to rely on help due to poor play earlier in the season.

And yes, health is generally a prime component of playoff readiness. But we're in a slightly different space health-wise than other teams generally. Usually, either health is against them and the enter the playoffs hobbled, or health is for them and they hit the playoffs running on all cylinders. We're in a quasi-space where we're getting a lot of key contributors back at JUST the right moment, but due to the razor thin margin of getting them back and our abysmal recent performance, we're relying heavily on all of them being monsters right out the gate with no hiccups or hangovers.

The optimum is we get back a Bob Sanders, who tidies up the defense just in time for a SB run. The opposite is we get back a Justin Houston who not only doesn't make a playoff difference, but ****s up his health for much of the NEXT season. And we have those dice rolls all over the squad.

htismaqe · 12-27-2018, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Is this really that hard, or are some people being obstinate and contrarian just to foment dissent?

The playoffs have ALWAYS been a momentum game.

Yes, every year plenty of teams 'back into' the playoffs because they aren't performing at playoff level when the time for the playoffs comes. And yes every year some teams are in prime playoff shape when the time for playoffs comes, but have to rely on help due to poor play earlier in the season.

Foment dissent? You mean trying to stay positive in the face of the overwhelming negative stupidity that is Chiefsplanet in December?

For the record, I’m using EXACTLY the definition you are implying. And if the playoffs are about momentum then EVERYBODY in the AFC is “backing in”. That’s the freaking point. The only team you could argue is playing good right now is the Ravens and they lost to the CHIEFS just three weeks ago.

**Baby Lee** · 12-27-2018, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Foment dissent? You mean trying to stay positive in the face of the overwhelming negative stupidity that is Chiefsplanet in December?

For the record, I’m using EXACTLY the definition you are implying. And if the playoffs are about momentum then EVERYBODY in the AFC is “backing in”. That’s the freaking point. The only team you could argue is playing good right now is the Ravens and they lost to the CHIEFS just three weeks ago.

There's a gulf of difference between 'hey, there's reason to be optimistic, guys' and 'you ****ing idiots are reeruns [who don't even understand basic grammar] for having any doubts.'

And yes, the perennial frontrunners [Steelers and Patriots] are in sore shape, as sore as us, right now. 3-7 scare me more top to bottom than than 2 or 8. The Ravens aren't the only team, Chargers and Colts are peaking a the right time. Texans have that late slinging-it thing between Watkins and Hopkins that will be the death of us in a close match. Titans WERE in good shape until Mariota got dinged, but Henry remains a nightmare for our rush D.

Everyone from the 49ers, Raiders and Cardinals on up through the playoff contenders can put 30+ on us any given week. We have our eggs in one basket with Mahomes magic, and we have peripheral hope that every hurt player comes back like a monster.

TwistedChief · 12-27-2018, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

I'll admit going 3-3 in the last 6 games heading into the post season, with one of those games being a miracle play by Mahomes and Hill and the other two wins being against one of the worst teams in the NFL, doesn't inspire alot of confidence. Andy is going to have to shake some demons off this postseason and be a little unconventional by his normal ways in order to make a Superbowl run. I like how people are getting healthy with Berry, Larry and Watkins seemingly playing in our first playoff game.

So we should lose a point because it took a miracle play by Mahomes/Hill to beat the Ravens but we don't get a point back for trailing the Chargers for only 4 seconds the entire game? You win some games; you lose some games. The glass doesn't always have to be half empty. There are many shades of grey here.

12-23-2018, 11:19 PM
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8012254	I'm not even excited for the playoffs after tonight... Same 'ol shit...gonna be 1 n done. Can't have a defense this bad and win in Jan..we've seen this movie before and we know how it ends. Did the Chiefs even force a punt at all? Not even Mahomes can overcome this teams' defensive woes. No QB can.
Posts: 39,166

12-27-2018, 10:08 AM	#161
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $7163101	I'll admit going 3-3 in the last 6 games heading into the post season, with one of those games being a miracle play by Mahomes and Hill and the other two wins being against one of the worst teams in the NFL, doesn't inspire alot of confidence. Andy is going to have to shake some demons off this postseason and be a little unconventional by his normal ways in order to make a Superbowl run. I like how people are getting healthy with Berry, Larry and Watkins seemingly playing in our first playoff game.
Posts: 7,595