Hall of Fame finalists announced

[carcosa]

Who ya got?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...2017-finalists

The 26 semifinalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2017 were trimmed to 15 finalists during Tuesday's Gold Jacket Finalists special on NFL Network.

The 15 modern-era finalists join three other finalists to comprise 18 finalists under consideration for the Class of 2017.

Former Seahawks safety Kenny Easley was announced as a senior finalist last August by the Seniors Committee, which reviews the qualifications of those players whose careers ended more than 25 years ago.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue were announced as contributor finalists in August by the Hall of Fame's Contributor Committee that considers persons who made outstanding contributions to professional football other than players and coaches.


2017 Hall of Fame finalists

1. Brian Dawkins, safety (Philadelphia Eagles, 1996-2008; Denver Broncos, 2009-2011)

2. Jason Taylor, defensive end (Miami Dolphins, 1997-2007, '09, 2011; Washington Redskins, 2008; New York Jets, 2010)

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, running back (San Diego Chargers, 2001-09; New York Jets, 2010-11)

4. Morten Andersen, kicker (New Orleans Saints, 1982-1994; Atlanta Falcons, 1995-2000; 2006-07; New York Giants, 2001; Kansas City Chiefs, 2002-03; Minnesota Vikings, 2004)

5. Don Coryell, coach (St. Louis Cardinals, 1973-77; San Diego Chargers, 1978-1986)

6. Kurt Warner, quarterback (St. Louis Rams, 1998-2003; New York Giants, 2004; Arizona Cardinals, 2005-09)

7. Terrell Davis, running back (Denver Broncos, 1995-2001)

8. Isaac Bruce, wide receiver (Los Angeles Rams, 1994; St. Louis Rams, 1995-2007; San Francisco 49ers, 2008-09)

9. Terrell Owens, wide receiver (San Francisco 49ers, 1996-2003; Philadelphia Eagles, 2004-05; Dallas Cowboys, 2006-08; Buffalo Bills, 2009; Cincinnati Bengals, 2010)

10. Tony Boselli, offensive tackle (Jacksonville Jaguars, 1995-2001; Houston Texans, 2002)

11. Alan Faneca, guard (Pittsburgh Steelers, 1998-2007; New York Jets, 2008-09; Arizona Cardinals, 2010)

12. Joe Jacoby, offensive tackle (Washington Redskins, 1981-1993)

13. Ty Law, cornerback (New England Patriots, 1995-2004; New York Jets, 2005, '08; Kansas City Chiefs, 2006-07; Denver Broncos, 2009)

14. John Lynch, safety (Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1993-2003; Denver Broncos, 2004-07)

15. Kevin Mawae, center (Seattle Seahawks, 1994-97; New York Jets, 1998-2005; Tennessee Titans, 2006-09)

[Spott]

Originally Posted by tk13

Conflicting reports that Terrell Davis made it too.

That's a joke that he made it. Played 4 seasons and went to shit as soon as Elway retired.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

139.5 sacks, 46 forced fumbles, 3 safeties, 8 INT's, 525 solo tackles, 250 assisted tackles.

Please explain how those aren't HOF numbers.

The NFL HOF is one of the toughest to get into.

Jason Taylor put up great numbers. But everyone always felt his numbers were padded. Nobody felt he changed games the way someone like Bruce Smith did. He deserved to be in over time. But not first ballot his first year.

Only 4 DEs in history have gotten in first ballot. Bruce Smith, Reggie White, Gino Marchetti, and Deacon Jones. Those guys were on a total different level than Taylor. Michael Strahan ran circles around Taylor and it took him a really long time to get in.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

****ing joke that Davis got in before TO, and before Priest Holmes, who had better numbers w/ similar touches.

and Jason Taylor was first-ballot b/c he was a media darling, just like the overrated Jerome Bettis, who should not be in the HOF at all.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But everyone always felt his numbers were padded.

Well, apparently not everybody, since he's now a Hall of Famer.

His numbers are better than DT's numbers.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Only 4 DEs in history have gotten in first ballot. Bruce Smith, Reggie White, Gino Marchetti, and Deacon Jones. Those guys were on a total different level than Taylor.

Well, I disagree and so does the HOF. I'm guessing you didn't watch many Dolphins games because the guy was unreal.

Weak argument, as usual.

[2112]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

****ing joke that Davis got in before TO, and before Priest Holmes, who had better numbers w/ similar touches.

and Jason Taylor was first-ballot b/c he was a media darling, just like the overrated Jerome Bettis, who should not be in the HOF at all.

You left out warren sapp too. He doesn't deserve to be in the HOF either.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

****ing joke that Davis got in before TO, and before Priest Holmes, who had better numbers w/ similar touches.

and Jason Taylor was first-ballot b/c he was a media darling, just like the overrated Jerome Bettis, who should not be in the HOF at all.

I absolutely agree about Bettis but Taylor's numbers were insane.

Had he been part of a great football team instead of mediocre teams like the Dolphins and Raiders, no one would disagree.

139 sacks for shitty teams, when generally, he was the only pass rushing threat, is pretty amazing.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

****ing joke that Davis got in before TO, and before Priest Holmes, who had better numbers w/ similar touches.

He won a Super Bowl.





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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

He won a Super Bowl.





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So did Priest Holmes.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I absolutely agree about Bettis but Taylor's numbers were insane.

Had he been part of a great football team instead of mediocre teams like the Dolphins and Raiders, no one would disagree.

139 sacks for shitty teams, when generally, he was the only pass rushing threat, is pretty amazing.

I don't have a problem with Taylor getting in. I do think Taylor getting in on the first ballot is overrating his production. He, like Derrick Thomas, was also a one-dimensional player, but he was never as disruptive as Thomas. Therefore, if Derrick Thomas took five or six times to get in, I fail to see how Taylor gets in on the first ballot when he was an inferior player.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, apparently not everybody, since he's now a Hall of Famer.

His numbers are better than DT's numbers.



Well, I disagree and so does the HOF. I'm guessing you didn't watch many Dolphins games because the guy was unreal.

Weak argument, as usual.

He is not even close to being one of the top 5 DEs of all time. Him being one of only 5 first ballot DEs implies that he is.

There are tons of DEs with better numbers, better playoff success, and all around better players than Taylor that took years to get in. Strahan is a perfect example. Taylor was always accused of being not nearly as good as his numbers. He was excellent, but he wasn't considered the terror that guys like Bruce Smith were.

Just because he was voted in, doesn't mean it makes any sense. He deserved to get in probably after a few years. But first ballot is a complete joke.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't have a problem with Taylor getting in. I do think Taylor getting in on the first ballot is overrating his production. He, like Derrick Thomas, was also a one-dimensional player, but he was never as disruptive as Thomas. Therefore, if Derrick Thomas took five or six times to get in, I fail to see how Taylor gets in on the first ballot when he was an inferior player.

While I believe that Taylor was definitely HOF worthy, I agree that the timing is a tiny bit suspect.

Forget that it took DT five years: What about Kevin Greene?

That was an insane wait for a guy that had 160 sacks and coached the LBer's for the Packers when they won the Super Bowl.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

While I believe that Taylor was definitely HOF worthy, I agree that the timing is a tiny bit suspect.

Forget that it took DT five years: What about Kevin Greene?

That was an insane wait for a guy that had 160 sacks and coached the LBer's for the Packers when they won the Super Bowl.

That's where I'm at too. Strahan. Doleman. Greene. These guys had to battle to get in. He should get in, but getting in first ballot doesn't make any sense. He's only the 5th DE in history to do it.

[mcaj22]

Putting on my conspiracy theory hat here but it seems very odd the stars aligned nicely for the NFL to put all their media darling poster boys in 1 HOF class. Warner, TD, Jason Taylor. All these guys are basically clean, good looking, poster children for how the NFL should be represented and played and it just seems like a giant clean up campaign to get these guys out in front to kick off the 2017 season and set a "good example" and make the shield look good.

They will get on stage, preach about religion, how they played the game the right way, they are all well spoken, no broken English, clean records, etc.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He is not even close to being one of the top 5 DEs of all time. Him being one of only 5 first ballot DEs implies that he is.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There are tons of DEs with better numbers

Go ahead an list the guys that have more 139.5 sacks, 46 forced fumbles, 3 safeties, 8 INT's, 525 solo tackles, 250 assisted tackles, that AREN'T in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Do it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Go ahead an list the guys that have more 139.5 sacks, 46 forced fumbles, 3 safeties, 8 INT's, 525 solo tackles, 250 assisted tackles, that AREN'T in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Do it.

Dude, you just agreed with Hamas literally a few posts ago that it seems weird for him to get in first ballot.

I never once said he doesn't belong in the HOF. But getting in first selection when only 4 others in history have done it, is a complete joke.

I don't care what the #'s say. He's an eventual HOFer. But no, he is not even close to being in the top 5. How can anyone even dare to put him in the same company as guys like Reggie White and Bruce Smith who were absolute terrors?

[Rain Man]

Congratulations to Morten Andersen, Kenny Easley, Ladainian Tomlinson, and Kurt Warner.

Jason Taylor? Meh, okay. I don't really care.

And whatever about Olandis Gary. That's a media pick, not a deserving football pick. But at least it guarantees that Jamaal and Priest will get elected since they're far more deserving.