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Old 03-23-2017, 03:51 PM   #1
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Adding Jones would help open up the Chiefs' offense and give Alex Smith a reliable, productive target.
Seriously - there is no way Kiper's watched the Chiefs and actually believes this.

Because adding Tyreke ****ing Hill didn't actually open up the offense. It added a couple of splash plays here and there but those were so infrequent (and really came at the expense of some deep middle/out routes rather than Reid/Smith's allotment of check-downs and WR screens) that they didn't accomplish anything.

No - NOTHING will open up the Chiefs offense. And no, Alex Smith will not do anything with a 'reliable, productive target' that he wouldn't do with some jackass 6th rounder that gets those same snaps because somehow Alex Smith has become "Even Steven" from ****ing Seinfeld. Give him 10 more deep passes and he'll just throw 10 more bubble screens.
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:25 AM   #2
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Not sure I'd be a fan of taking the 5th to 10th best receiver (depending on who you ask) as a 1st round pick - but that's just me.
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:30 AM   #3
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Not sure I'd be a fan of taking the 5th to 10th best receiver (depending on who you ask) as a 1st round pick - but that's just me.
He has great hands and has been very productive but I'd sure rather have that QB
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:32 AM   #4
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Zay Jones isn't going in the 1st round. Shit....I don't even think he'll go in the top half of the 2nd.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:17 AM   #5
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Zay Jones isn't going in the 1st round. Shit....I don't even think he'll go in the top half of the 2nd.
He's likely the #4 WR on most teams boards. He'll probably be gone by the middle of the 2nd, though I agree that it's pretty unlikely he goes in the 1st.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:11 AM   #6
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He's likely the #4 WR on most teams boards. He'll probably be gone by the middle of the 2nd, though I agree that it's pretty unlikely he goes in the 1st.
Preference, Cooper Kupp or Zay Jones?
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Preference, Cooper Kupp or Zay Jones?
Jones. Much more upside.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:08 PM   #8
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Jones. Much more upside.
That was my thought too. He may not ever be a super star but I'd put money on him having a long and productive career barring major injury.
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Preference, Cooper Kupp or Zay Jones?
Chris Godwin over both please. And no, I don't think KC picks a receiver in round 1 anyhow.
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We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him
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We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him
For real. It's like buying toys for the little bastard child who needs to have his ass spanked and his dinner taken away from him.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:44 PM   #13
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We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him
Yeup.

It's pretty remarkable, to be honest. It takes a hell of a set of tools to be able to take a team who's best pass catcher is an intermittently healthy Donnie Avery and be identically productive with a team that has Travis Kelce, Tyreke Hill, Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley added to the mix.

I'm serious - how the **** does he even manage that? Give the guy shit and he produces like an average to slightly below average quarterback. It stands to reason that giving him actual weapons will yield some sort of ROI...

Nope - same goddamn guy. The ability to be nominally productive in his first year or two here with a bad line and zero weapons to speak of was pretty damn admirable. But the fact that he's pretty much just hugged that line of abject mediocrity while the team around him has gotten progressively better (to the point of legitimately dangerous)....well that's just bizarre.
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Yeup.

It's pretty remarkable, to be honest. It takes a hell of a set of tools to be able to take a team who's best pass catcher is an intermittently healthy Donnie Avery and be identically productive with a team that has Travis Kelce, Tyreke Hill, Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley added to the mix.

I'm serious - how the **** does he even manage that? Give the guy shit and he produces like an average to slightly below average quarterback. It stands to reason that giving him actual weapons will yield some sort of ROI...

Nope - same goddamn guy. The ability to be nominally productive in his first year or two here with a bad line and zero weapons to speak of was pretty damn admirable. But the fact that he's pretty much just hugged that line of abject mediocrity while the team around him has gotten progressively better (to the point of legitimately dangerous)....well that's just bizarre.
Drops, running game, pass pro, the defense did I forget an excuse?
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Drops, running game, pass pro, the defense did I forget an excuse?
Alex Smith is significantly more impressive when his team sucks.

Because he's no better when they're good so his middle of the road play for a shitty team actually looks pretty good.
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