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Old 09-22-2015, 04:17 AM  
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Pagano Tosses Luck under the bus

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Frustrated Pagano tough on Luck after loss

Posted by Zac Jackson on September 22, 2015, 1:21 AM EDT
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The Colts were a mess from the beginning Monday night and were ultimately doomed by five turnovers — three Andrew Luck interceptions — in a 20-7 loss to the Jets.

After the game, Colts coach Chuck Pagano didn’t try to hide his frustration with his quarterback and his team as a whole.

“He’s got to take care of the football,” Pagano said in his postgame press conference. “It’s not that hard. It’s not trigonometry.”

The simple math says that the Colts have scored three touchdowns and committed eight turnovers through two games, both losses.

“Can’t turn the damn ball over,” Pagano said.

Gregg Doyel of the Indianapolis Star, who was at the game and at the postgame press conference, wrote that Pagano was “throwing Luck under the bus.”

While the Jets clearly frustrated Luck with a variety of blitzes and sometimes just by simply overpowering them in one-on-one battles in the trenches, Pagano hinted that Luck has to overcome his line’s shortcomings.

“[That has] been the case for three years now, hasn’t it?” Pagano asked. “He should be more than comfortable dealing with it.”
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:33 AM   #151
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As much of a hard on that you have to draft your QBOTF, you better hope that the offensive line gels before he gets under center, or it won't matter how good he is. It simply won't matter - he'll bust.
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Old 09-23-2015, 08:39 AM   #152
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Saw an interesting stat in an article I read about the Colts' woes:

Andrew Luck's BEST QB rating (or QBR, whichever) for a year thus far in his career isn't as good as Manning's WORST.
I think I saw during the Monday night game a stat that said Luck has turned the ball over 28 times in 2014 and current 2015.
21 interceptions and 7 fumbles.
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Old 09-23-2015, 10:17 AM   #153
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I think I saw during the Monday night game a stat that said Luck has turned the ball over 28 times in 2014 and current 2015.
21 interceptions and 7 fumbles.
Luck has been a turnover machine.
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:36 PM   #154
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I will say this, the Colts better figure it out soon. They play the Patriots in 4 weeks. They already have a tough time with them. After Deflategate, Belichick will probably try and score 100 on them.
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:47 PM   #155
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I will say this, the Colts better figure it out soon. They play the Patriots in 4 weeks. They already have a tough time with them. After Deflategate, Belichick will probably try and score 100 on them.
Fixed. Have you seen the Colts D?
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:02 PM   #156
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Just once I would love Reid to do this to Alex...really hold that pussy accountable in front of the world...but we just keep schlepping along.

Dude probably thinks he is untouchable, especially since he makes more money than Andrew Luck...yeah let that sink in. Alex Smith...makes more money...than Andrew Luck.
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Just once I would love Reid to do this to Alex...really hold that pussy accountable in front of the world...but we just keep schlepping along.

Dude probably thinks he is untouchable, especially since he makes more money than Andrew Luck...yeah let that sink in. Alex Smith...makes more money...than Andrew Luck.
Why did the Chiefs give cassell big money after the Trade its the same thing with Smith they have no idea on how to judge QB talent.

That being said we know Pioli had a hard on for Cassell So is it Reid or Dorsey who has been beating the Alex smith drum in kc ?
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Why did the Chiefs give cassell big money after the Trade its the same thing with Smith they have no idea on how to judge QB talent.

That being said we know Pioli had a hard on for Cassell So is it Reid or Dorsey who has been beating the Alex smith drum in kc ?
I think Dorsey has more sense than Reid, but will acquiesce to his nonsense.
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Since Andrew Luck entered the league in 2012, he has 48 interceptions and 7 fumbles, for combined 55 turnovers.

Jay Cutler, in that same span, has 50 interceptions and 7 fumbles, for a combined 57.
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Since Andrew Luck entered the league in 2012, he has 48 interceptions and 7 fumbles, for combined 55 turnovers.

Jay Cutler, in that same span, has 50 interceptions and 7 fumbles, for a combined 57.
Jay Cutler is a veteran. Luck has played three years and is just entering his prime years.

Peyton Manning had 90 turnovers in his four years in the league. Luck would have to throw 38 INT this year to match Peyton's first four years.
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Jay Cutler is a veteran. Luck has played three years and is just entering his prime years.

Peyton Manning had 90 turnovers in his four years in the league. Luck would have to throw 38 INT this year to match Peyton's first four years.
The rules have changed (due in large part to Manning's struggles early in his career) since Manning's early years, so different era.

Luck is the same QB now that he was in 2012.

He, in fact, might be worse.
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