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Old 07-01-2015, 09:09 AM  
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Andy Reid
I don't get the hate for this guy. I've seen people compare him to Herm Edwards. He's the best coach in this franchises history. A top 10 coach in the league who's only had 3 losing seasons and 150 wins.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:28 PM   #151
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And they paid a huge price and found out differently in the long run.
That Jay Zygmunt/John Shaw were ****ing terrible front office people, causing Martz to become paranoid and what should have been a dynasty to decline into absolute garbage?
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:32 PM   #152
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And they paid a huge price and found out differently in the long run.
Nonsense.

They won a Super Bowl and should have won another but Belichick cheated for the first time.
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Old 07-02-2015, 12:10 AM   #153
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Martz never, ever learned to do two things: 1) protect the QB and 2) eliminate turnovers. He didn't care about either, and that's why he never really reached his potential. It's often not one person, but the right mix of people that makes a difference. Vermeil and Martz were great together because Martz's weaknesses were the things Vermeil stressed all the time, and vice versa. Once Martz was left to do what he wanted... he never recaptured the magic. And he let his QBs get beat up.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:04 AM   #154
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I can't wait for this season. None of these ****ing morons better jump on the bandwagon.
Don't be a ****ing reerun. NOBODY that has been a Chiefs fan on this board for the last ten years can ever be accused of bandwagoning, no matter how negative they are. That's literally the dumbest Facebook shit I've read over this entire offseason.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:23 AM   #155
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Martz never, ever learned to do two things: 1) protect the QB and 2) eliminate turnovers. He didn't care about either, and that's why he never really reached his potential. It's often not one person, but the right mix of people that makes a difference. Vermeil and Martz were great together because Martz's weaknesses were the things Vermeil stressed all the time, and vice versa. Once Martz was left to do what he wanted... he never recaptured the magic. And he let his QBs get beat up.
Spot on.
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Old 07-02-2015, 05:55 AM   #156
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I honestly think there are some people on CP who don't care to see the team win unless they do it in the specific ways that person thinks they should.
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Old 07-02-2015, 06:16 AM   #157
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I honestly think there are some people on CP who don't care to see the team win unless they do it in the specific ways that person thinks they should.
That's unfair.

Certain posters have watched the whole nfl (not just the Chiefs) for decades and see a common trend that's undeniable. Teams with premier quarterbacks win almost every Super Bowl. The line in the sand is drawn because of standards. Or at least perceived standards.

IMO, Some of those same posters have seen KC trade for backup quarterbacks over and over with little to no results. Wasting endless years of potential for some loaded teams.

Some of those same guys see the trade for Alex as "going back to watch the same movie, hoping to see a different ending"...I can relate to that. That's how I felt regarding the trade for Cassel. The difference here is Alex Smith is made for Andy's offense (and will destroy worlds in it if he can remember where he left his nuts) and actually has talent.

Personally, I think OTWP (and many others) are gonna really enjoy the second half of this season as Alex starts to play at a level higher than any quarterback we've had in KC for a very very long time and wins us a playoff game or 2.

Hopefully that will renew their enjoyment.
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Old 07-02-2015, 06:18 AM   #158
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I bet Reid came when Seattle threw the ball at the 1 in the Superbowl.
Throwing at the 1 in the Superbowl wasn't dumb. Calling a high-risk pass at the 1 was dumb.
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I think I will give Reid credit for something no one has really mentioned ... in his two years as coach, we've been competitive nearly every Sunday. Even in games I thought we'd get throttled, he's managed to get the team prepared and it's always a ball game. There have been a few exceptions, but for the most part, every Sunday is somewhat enjoyable, even when we lose (to the point of, well, at least we had a chance in the 4th quarter if this, this and that happened). With Pioli/Haley/Crennel, some of those games (in fact, I'd say half, if not more) got so out of hand it was awful. It made the Chiefs unbearable for the most part.

And I realize all of the naysayers are all like, "oooh, oh, omg 9-7 whooopdeedoo!"

...well the New York Giants have parlayed two of those seasons into Super Bowls by getting hot at the right time, and you can't win a Super Bowl without getting to the playoffs.

...and it's very unrealistic to think NFL teams are going to "Houston Astros" it for 5 years so they can "rebuild the right way." It's not possible. There are no sure thing QB's sans Andrew Luck that are ever drafted. There have been teams that draft a QB in the 1st round every 3 years that still suck because they can't find a franchise QB. Finding a QB isn't nearly as easy as this board makes it out to be.

Of course we all want an Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Unfortunately, those are about 1 in 50 even in the most elite of prospects.
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this place will change when the Chiefs win a playoff game and keep getting in the playoffs on a regular basis, which is what they are building.
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Don't be a ****ing reerun. NOBODY that has been a Chiefs fan on this board for the last ten years can ever be accused of bandwagoning, no matter how negative they are. That's literally the dumbest Facebook shit I've read over this entire offseason.
I think you took the word "bandwagon" a little too literal. I'm simply saying the pessimists (not on the Reid/Dorsey/Smith "bandwagon") don't deserve to enjoy/celebrate what's coming this season. You gotta be the reerun to think I meant these people aren't Chiefs fans. Chill out man
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:49 AM   #162
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I think you took the word "bandwagon" a little too literal. I'm simply saying the pessimists (not on the Reid/Dorsey/Smith "bandwagon") don't deserve to enjoy/celebrate what's coming this season. You gotta be the reerun to think I meant these people aren't Chiefs fans. Chill out man
Don't deserve to enjoy/celebrate what's coming this season?



How many playoff games have you attended/driven to?

I'm pretty sure Path went to every one that last 20 years.

GTFO with that bs
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I think you took the word "bandwagon" a little too literal. I'm simply saying the pessimists (not on the Reid/Dorsey/Smith "bandwagon") don't deserve to enjoy/celebrate what's coming this season. You gotta be the reerun to think I meant these people aren't Chiefs fans. Chill out man
You going to have the time to watch? I mean shit....with all of that "scouting" you do.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:57 AM   #164
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I think you took the word "bandwagon" a little too literal. I'm simply saying the pessimists (not on the Reid/Dorsey/Smith "bandwagon") don't deserve to enjoy/celebrate what's coming this season. You gotta be the reerun to think I meant these people aren't Chiefs fans. Chill out man
I simply responded to what you said, player. Feel free to move the goal posts now. I would too.
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You going to have the time to watch? I mean shit....with all of that "scouting" you do.
I thought he was just a player. This dude scouts too? DAMN!
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