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Tom Brady 61 36.53%
Joe Montana 91 54.49%
Other 15 8.98%
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Old 02-01-2015, 09:43 PM  
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Tom Brady: Greatest ever?
So he now has four Super Bowls, just like Montana.

He also has the rare distinction of also winning one at the end of his career. Rarely happens to guys his age.

Also has disgusting numbers.

Difference in eras has to be considered, but it's certainly a conversation.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:12 AM   #151
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Manning at his best was better than Brady at his best.
Brady and Manning will never be discussed together again


the only discussion is whether Brady or Montana is the best ever


Manning has no place in that discussion

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Old 02-02-2015, 09:13 AM   #152
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Brady and Manning will never be discussed together again
I think they will be.

In the same way that Dan Marino is discussed with Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and others.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:14 AM   #153
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Brady has it easy. A defense and a shit division his whole career.
Rams, Aints and the Falcons... Not exactly top level competition there for Montana.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:16 AM   #154
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You don't get to the Super Bowl twice in a row by luck.

You don't win 42 games over the last 3 seasons by luck.

Just stupid.
Very true, that said the play that allowed them to make that questionable call was a pure luck. Pure luck against Green Bay got them to the super bowl in the first place. Yes they are a very good football team but an extremely lucky team also~
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:16 AM   #155
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I think they will be.

In the same way that Dan Marino is discussed with Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and others.
Yep, Manning will be one of the best REGULAR SEASON QB's ever. Just not someone you want on your team come playoff time.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:20 AM   #156
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Rams, Aints and the Falcons... Not exactly top level talent there for Montana.
Montana had the advantage of superior talent IMO. Brady has had the advantage of rule changes handcuffing defenses~
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:24 AM   #157
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Montana had the advantage of superior talent IMO. Brady has had the advantage of rule changes handcuffing defenses~
I'll agree. I just didn't want it to become accepted fact that Brady played in an easy division while Montana didn't. They both did. Outside of the years with Welker and Moss, Brady has had to do it with a bunch of scrubs who couldn't make it on other teams.
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Nope. Montana, Unitas and Graham played in an era when defense was still allowed and the rules didn't artificially inflate offense. To me they'll always be the top three quarterbacks of all time. #4 ain't bad for Brady, though.
This.

Plus Brady doesn't have a young stud breathing down his neck that the franchise is ready to put in the second he stumbles or is hurt...
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I'll agree. I just didn't want it to become accepted fact that Brady played in an easy division while Montana didn't. They both did. Outside of the years with Welker and Moss, Brady has had to do it with a bunch of scrubs who couldn't make it on other teams.
Peyton's Colts were good, but there is no team in our modern era who could match the sheer talent on the Cowboys in the 90s. You take the Cowboys out of the equation and Montana easily gets the most rings.

Also Montanas first super bowls were not loaded with talent.
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Peyton's Colts were good, but there is no team in our modern era who could match the sheer talent on the Cowboys in the 90s. You take the Cowboys out of the equation and Montana easily gets the most rings.

Also Montanas first super bowls were not loaded with talent.
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13 of 15, 121 yards, 2 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, 139.9 rating
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Peyton's Colts were good, but there is no team in our modern era who could match the sheer talent on the Cowboys in the 90s. You take the Cowboys out of the equation and Montana easily gets the most rings.

Also Montanas first super bowls were not loaded with talent.
Those Cowboy/SF games were essentially the Super Bowls those years.
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