Football Report: Pending physical, Peyton Manning intends to return to Broncos - Page 11

**Donger** · 01-21-2015, 03:59 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rn-to-broncos/

Well, that didn’t take long.

After the January 11 divisional-round loss to the Colts, Broncos G.M. John Elway told quarterback Peyton Manning to take several weeks before deciding whether to return. Woody Paige of the Denver Post, citing three unnamed “trustworthy” sources (not to be confused with the usual untrustworthy kind), reports that Peyton intends to come back to the team for a fourth season.

The only potential roadblock would be his annual physical examination. Manning had multiple neck surgeries before joining the team, and he’s checked every year to ensure that his neck will still be able to withstand the demands of playing professional football.

His third year with the team ended reportedly with two thigh injuries that seemed to significantly impair his ability to throw the ball.

The Broncos need a definitive answer from Manning by March 9. His $19 million base salary for 2015 becomes fully guaranteed thereafter.

Manning’s willingness to play for new coach Gary Kubiak suggests: (1) that Manning wasn’t overly upset about the departure of coach John Fox and offensive coordinator Adam Gase; (2) that Manning is comfortable with the intended offensive approach under Kubiak; and (3) that Manning isn’t holding too much of a grudge regarding the failure of Kubiak’s Houston Texans to reciprocate Manning’s interest in joining the franchise three years ago.

Discuss Thrower · 03-04-2015, 05:40 PM

All of Hootie's apologism stems from Peyton Manning "destroying" one of the worst defenses in NFL history in one playoff game from the 2003 season.

**Donger** · 03-04-2015, 05:41 PM

Can someone tell me how Brady's deal is different than Manning's?

Just Passin' By · 03-04-2015, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Not at all.

If Peyton Manning takes a ridiculous paycut it'll piss me off just as badly.

I'm not even attacking Brady.

I'm attacking the Patriots. Why are they the one team that gets to pay their elite QB far less than every other elite QB?

It's salary cap circumvention. And it's impossible to prove. Kudos to the Patriots for one upping the rest of the NFL, once again. It's what they do.

A ridiculous $4 million dollar pay cut after throwing 39 TDs and leading his team to a 12-4 record. And they did it in order to lower the cap. Now the Broncos will get to pay their elite QB far less than the Packers have to pay Rodgers, for example. That's salary cap circumvention.

Right, Hootie? You must be so disappointed to find out that Manning's just another cheater.

Just Passin' By · 03-04-2015, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger

Can someone tell me how Brady's deal is different than Manning's?

Brady's deal leads to his team winning Super Bowls.

Discuss Thrower · 03-04-2015, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Brady's deal leads to his team winning Super Bowls.

Hootie · 03-04-2015, 05:53 PM

Nah, I think the Broncos and Manning are doing it in good faith. $19M to $15M makes sense.

Taking a fully guaranteed contract and then agreeing to waive all the guarantees and playing for $9M a year as Tom Brady is insane. It's cheating. 100%. Can't prove it, though...so if anything, I think it's great Bob Kraft is willing to do whatever it takes to win.

Just Passin' By · 03-04-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Nah, I think the Broncos and Manning are doing it in good faith. $19M to $15M makes sense.

Taking a fully guaranteed contract and then agreeing to waive all the guarantees and playing for $9M a year as Tom Brady is insane. It's cheating. 100%. Can't prove it, though...so if anything, I think it's great Bob Kraft is willing to do whatever it takes to win.

Props to you for being willing to make yourself look like a dipshit all for some trolling.

saphojunkie · 03-04-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Nah, I think the Broncos and Manning are doing it in good faith. $19M to $15M makes sense.

Taking a fully guaranteed contract and then agreeing to waive all the guarantees and playing for $9M a year as Tom Brady is insane. It's cheating. 100%. Can't prove it, though...so if anything, I think it's great Bob Kraft is willing to do whatever it takes to win.

You're so full of shit.

They're lowering his salary in good faith that after he retires, he'll stay on the payroll.

Hootie · 03-04-2015, 05:55 PM

Hey man ...

Put me in a poker tournament, with 10 guys, and give me $1,000,000 in chips and give everyone else $10,000 in chips and I'll win every time.

Brady's contract gives the Patriots a lot of extra starting chips and I guarantee Brady isn't losing a single $ doing it ... he'll make every penny back times 10 from Bob Kraft after his career is over.

That is salary cap circumvention. I'm sorry that I'm capable of seeing things for what they are ... rather than just thinking, "oh gee! That Tom Brady! He's the only guy who wants to win!"

I'm surprised people aren't bashing Peyton for only agreeing to cut $4M off his salary ... I'm surprised people aren't calling him greedy right now. It's a good thing I steered the narrative towards Brady's cheater contract or that's exactly what everyone would be talking about.

Hootie · 03-04-2015, 05:57 PM

hypocrite?

The Broncos are admitting he's taking a paycut so they can sign more players. He also won't recoup that $4M from the Broncos ... ever. Never.

Brady makes $9M a year FULLY KNOWING he'll get all of that lost money back after his career is over WITH THE PATRIOTS.

How in the **** do you morons not see the ****ing difference?

It's ****ing just baffling. Like ... it hurts. It's COMPLETELY different.

Hootie · 03-04-2015, 05:57 PM

the fact you guys don't see the difference just shows how much I own all of you

totally own

it's embarrassing

Just Passin' By · 03-04-2015, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

...I'm surprised people aren't bashing Peyton for only agreeing to cut $4M off his salary ... I'm surprised people aren't calling him greedy right now. It's a good thing I steered the narrative towards Brady's cheater contract or that's exactly what everyone would be talking about.

Hell, Hootie, ask and you shall receive:

Quote:

When negotiations began, the Broncos were seeking a far more severe pay cut than $4 million.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...agrees-pay-cut

So they couldn't even agree on how much they'd cheat.

saphojunkie · 03-04-2015, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Hey man ...

Put me in a poker tournament, with 10 guys, and give me $1,000,000 in chips and give everyone else $10,000 in chips and I'll win every time.

Brady's contract gives the Patriots a lot of extra starting chips and I guarantee Brady isn't losing a single $ doing it ... he'll make every penny back times 10 from Bob Kraft after his career is over.

That is salary cap circumvention. I'm sorry that I'm capable of seeing things for what they are ... rather than just thinking, "oh gee! That Tom Brady! He's the only guy who wants to win!"

I'm surprised people aren't bashing Peyton for only agreeing to cut $4M off his salary ... I'm surprised people aren't calling him greedy right now. It's a good thing I steered the narrative towards Brady's cheater contract or that's exactly what everyone would be talking about.

POP QUIZ TIME!

Peyton Manning is:

A) Greedy
B) A cheater
C) A choke artist
D) Not worth his price tag.

Congratulations, it's

E) All of the above.

saphojunkie · 03-04-2015, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

the fact you guys don't see the difference just shows how much I own all of you

totally own

it's embarrassing

saphojunkie · 03-04-2015, 06:00 PM

The difference is that Tom Brady is cheating better than Peyton Manning. He's also playing quarterback better.

And I'm fairly certain he would deliver better pizza, to boot.

01-21-2015, 03:59 PM
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $9959900 VARSITY	Report: Pending physical, Peyton Manning intends to return to Broncos http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rn-to-broncos/ Well, that didn’t take long. After the January 11 divisional-round loss to the Colts, Broncos G.M. John Elway told quarterback Peyton Manning to take several weeks before deciding whether to return. Woody Paige of the Denver Post, citing three unnamed “trustworthy” sources (not to be confused with the usual untrustworthy kind), reports that Peyton intends to come back to the team for a fourth season. The only potential roadblock would be his annual physical examination. Manning had multiple neck surgeries before joining the team, and he’s checked every year to ensure that his neck will still be able to withstand the demands of playing professional football. His third year with the team ended reportedly with two thigh injuries that seemed to significantly impair his ability to throw the ball. The Broncos need a definitive answer from Manning by March 9. His $19 million base salary for 2015 becomes fully guaranteed thereafter. Manning’s willingness to play for new coach Gary Kubiak suggests: (1) that Manning wasn’t overly upset about the departure of coach John Fox and offensive coordinator Adam Gase; (2) that Manning is comfortable with the intended offensive approach under Kubiak; and (3) that Manning isn’t holding too much of a grudge regarding the failure of Kubiak’s Houston Texans to reciprocate Manning’s interest in joining the franchise three years ago.
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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $2846869	All of Hootie's apologism stems from Peyton Manning "destroying" one of the worst defenses in NFL history in one playoff game from the 2003 season. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $9959900 VARSITY	Can someone tell me how Brady's deal is different than Manning's? __________________ I think the young people enjoy it when I "get down," verbally, don't you?
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03-04-2015, 05:53 PM	#156
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Nah, I think the Broncos and Manning are doing it in good faith. $19M to $15M makes sense. Taking a fully guaranteed contract and then agreeing to waive all the guarantees and playing for $9M a year as Tom Brady is insane. It's cheating. 100%. Can't prove it, though...so if anything, I think it's great Bob Kraft is willing to do whatever it takes to win.
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03-04-2015, 05:55 PM	#159
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Hey man ... Put me in a poker tournament, with 10 guys, and give me $1,000,000 in chips and give everyone else $10,000 in chips and I'll win every time. Brady's contract gives the Patriots a lot of extra starting chips and I guarantee Brady isn't losing a single $ doing it ... he'll make every penny back times 10 from Bob Kraft after his career is over. That is salary cap circumvention. I'm sorry that I'm capable of seeing things for what they are ... rather than just thinking, "oh gee! That Tom Brady! He's the only guy who wants to win!" I'm surprised people aren't bashing Peyton for only agreeing to cut $4M off his salary ... I'm surprised people aren't calling him greedy right now. It's a good thing I steered the narrative towards Brady's cheater contract or that's exactly what everyone would be talking about.
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03-04-2015, 05:57 PM	#160
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	hypocrite? The Broncos are admitting he's taking a paycut so they can sign more players. He also won't recoup that $4M from the Broncos ... ever. Never. Brady makes $9M a year FULLY KNOWING he'll get all of that lost money back after his career is over WITH THE PATRIOTS. How in the ** do you morons not see the ing difference? It's **ing just baffling. Like ... it hurts. It's COMPLETELY different.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the fact you guys don't see the difference just shows how much I own all of you totally own it's embarrassing
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03-04-2015, 06:00 PM	#165
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4476550	The difference is that Tom Brady is cheating better than Peyton Manning. He's also playing quarterback better. And I'm fairly certain he would deliver better pizza, to boot.
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