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Old 08-05-2014, 04:15 PM  
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HUGE gap with Houston
“Huge” gap exists between Chiefs, Justin Houston
Posted by Mike Florio on August 5, 2014, 4:28 PM EDT
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Linebacker Justin Houston was sufficiently upset with the lack of a new contract to skip the offseason program. But he showed up for training camp, realizing that the best way to get paid is to complete the final year of his rookie deal.

The Chiefs rewarded Houston for honoring his current obligations by offering a new contract. Houston didn’t like it. Per a league source, a “huge” gap current exists between the team’s offer and Houston’s demands.

It’s unclear whether that gap will be closed before the season ends and the Chiefs have to decide whether to use the franchise tag. If they don’t work out new deals with Houston and Alex Smith, they’ll have to choose between them. Maybe the Chiefs will choose neither.

The team’s ultimate position on Houston will depend on the development of rookie Dee Ford. Currently, Ford is listed as the second-string right outside linebacker, behind Tamba Hali.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:02 PM   #151
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:48 PM   #152
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hey idiot, a big reason ford has question marks is BECAUSE he hasn't played yet.

Houston drops into coverage quite a bit too, but I don't expect a dumbass like you to realize it or even look it up
No shit. We agree about Ford. Houston doesn't drop much. You look it up.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:52 PM   #153
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No shit. We agree about Ford. Houston doesn't drop much. You look it up.
What do you mean doesn't drop?

Houston is a LB, he's already 'dropped'

Unless Houston blitzes he is in coverage of some kind

We didn't blitz Houston all the time.

Hali is the guy who didn't drop much.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:53 PM   #154
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For the record I posted my Houston breakdown and theory about two weeks ago. No one gave me any shit back then. In fact I got rep for it. Yesterday I reposted it an said I saw this coming. Now everyone is killing me for it. What the **** is wrong with you guys? Do you want to have good discussion or not? I really did not expect the homer mentality here. I thought this place was different.

I have a Justin Houston jersey. I wear my Justin Houston jersey. I like Justin Houston but I understand where the organization is coming from. Go ahead and overhype all you want. I will not do that.
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Old 08-06-2014, 01:58 PM   #155
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What do you mean doesn't drop?

Houston is a LB, he's already 'dropped'

Unless Houston blitzes he is in coverage of some kind

We didn't blitz Houston all the time.

Hali is the guy who didn't drop much.
I mean Houston isn't dropping into coverage much. He's got 13 pass break ups in his career. He's not Derrick Brooks. 3-4 OLBs don't drop into coverage much anymore period. The nickel package is practically the new base defense.
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I mean Houston isn't dropping into coverage much. 3-4 OLBs don't drop into coverage much anymore period. The nickel package is practically the new base defense.
I don't think you understand my point.

Houston doesn't come off the field on passing downs. If he doesn't blitz then he is in coverage. It might be covering the RBs in shallow coverage but he is still in coverage.

If Houston doesn't blitz, he is in coverage on passing downs.


So yes, Houston is in coverage quite a bit.
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I don't think you understand my point.

Houston doesn't come off the field on passing downs. If he doesn't blitz then he is in coverage. It might be covering the RBs in shallow coverage but he is still in coverage.

If Houston doesn't blitz, he is in coverage on passing downs.


So yes, Houston is in coverage quite a bit.
No I'd say he's blitzing 90% or more of the time.
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For the record I posted my Houston breakdown and theory about two weeks ago. No one gave me any shit back then. In fact I got rep for it. Yesterday I reposted it an said I saw this coming. Now everyone is killing me for it. What the **** is wrong with you guys? Do you want to have good discussion or not? I really did not expect the homer mentality here. I thought this place was different.

I have a Justin Houston jersey. I wear my Justin Houston jersey. I like Justin Houston but I understand where the organization is coming from. Go ahead and overhype all you want. I will not do that.
I don't think you understand what homer mentality means
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Don't worry guys - if he doesn't get a contract before the season starts someone will write an article with all the stats you want soon. In other words someone will write that article soon.
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No I'd say he's blitzing 90% or more of the time.
You would say.

But you'd be wrong.
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I don't think you understand what homer mentality means
Part of it means overrating your team's players.
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You would say.

But you'd be wrong.
Tell it Dorsey bud. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Tell it Dorsey bud. Don't shoot the messenger.
You're a messenger of bogus statistics.

Houston does NOT blitz 90% of the time you ****ing doofus.
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You're a messenger of bogus statistics.

Houston does NOT blitz 90% of the time you ****ing doofus.
Let's be ****ing real for a minute. Will Justin Houston get paid for his God Damnned coverage skills? How many outside linebackers in any kind of defense get paid for their coverage skills?

He will be getting paid for his pass rushing skills and his ability to stop the run. It will not be for his coverage skills.

The competition he faced rushing the passer and the success he had against them are the most relevant factors in determining his value. Not his ****ing coverage skills.

He blitzed 90% of the time imo and if we weren't blitzing him we were ****ing stupid.
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Let's be ****ing real for a minute. Will Justin Houston get paid for his God Damnned coverage skills? How many outside linebackers in any kind of defense get paid for their coverage skills?

He will be getting paid for his pass rushing skills and his ability to stop the run. It will not be for his coverage skills. The competition he faced and the success he had against them are the most relevant factors in determining his value.
So you're back tracking because you're wrong......got it.
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