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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?

Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:56 PM   #151
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:57 PM   #152
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:57 PM   #153
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Our pass rush disappeared, but I think the return of the real men up front will fix that issue.

Hopefully.
Run defense killed our pass rush as the year went on. 'Gotta stop the run to have some fun' the saying goes.

Our edge guys could never just pin their ears back and get after Ben because they had to hold their gaps in the run game.

Hopefully Bailey and Howard, along with DJ and some ILB help will close that gap.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:58 PM   #154
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While we sit here and act as if Smith is the cause of or problems we forget it was undisciplined play by our OL (Jah Reid miss block, Morse holding penalty, Fisher holding penalty, LDT illegal man downfield), the missed passes by 5 receivers, West fumbling the ball before the half, Berry not helping Houston contain brown for a 52 yard gain that led to a FG...things that had far more reason for us losing the game than our QB.

We also forget that Charles sucked money out of this team doing nothing. Maclin was MIA despite being paid as one of the top receivers. Houston gave us 2 productive games out of a possible 17. Tamba is being paid 7 mil a year . Our run defense was one of the league's worst in ypc. Our running backs had 50% less touchdowns from season prior. Dee ford went missing.

Bunch of morons on this forum.


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Old 01-17-2017, 04:58 PM   #155
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Last 4 SB winners...
Denver Broncos ranked 16th in offensive yards/game
New England Pats ranked 11th in offensive yards/game
Seattle Seahawks ranked 17th in offensive yards/game
Baltimore Ravens ranked 16th in offensive yards/game


If this isn't convincing evidence that Defenses have predominately been the reason teams win the Lombardi...
Thought yards were for fantasy players. And your boy alex never led us to those yardage rankings so wrong.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:59 PM   #156
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Its not about 'replacing Alex' to me. Its about finding our guy that can always have us in contention, even if our defense isn't loaded with talent or we aren't stocked with weapons.

Right now, we have to be damn near perfect to win a playoff game. Its how it is when you are trying to win a championship with a game manager.

I'll never be a Alex hater and I never have been, but KC deserves more. Too much talent going to waste.
I trust Dorsey. He has been quietly looking for that diamond in the rough and has yet to find one. But when time begins to run out, he'll select a QB in the first 2 rounds. That could be this year or the next. But with Smith at age 33 and continuing to show improvement and this team being more competitive with each passing year...I just don't see the justification in replacing a guy who has the 3rd best record over the last 6 NFL seasons. It makes ZERO sense.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:59 PM   #157
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While we sit here and act as if Smith is the cause of or problems we forget it was undisciplined play by our OL (Jah Reid miss block, Morse holding penalty, Fisher holding penalty, LDT illegal man downfield), the missed passes by 5 receivers, West fumbling the ball before the half, Berry not helping Houston contain brown for a 52 yard gain that led to a FG...things that had far more reason for us losing the game than our QB.

We also forget that Charles sucked money out of this team doing nothing. Maclin was MIA despite being paid as one of the top receivers. Houston gave us 2 productive games out of a possible 17. Tamba is being paid 7 mil a year . Our run defense was one of the league's worst in ypc. Our running backs had 50% less touchdowns from season prior. Dee ford went missing.

Bunch of morons on this forum.
How do you blame JC over alex? Now I know you are insane.

Might as well cut Houston now. BTW There was no Safety help deep because it was a sell out Firehouse blitz, the pressure was supposed to get to Ben before he could make the throw. You guys were lucky there was enough pressure to keep it from being a walk in TD.

Macklin has been hurt all year but with a real QB making better throws he is a star.

I agree you should have drafted better with the 1st over all pick in the draft.

Alex goes anywhere else he does the same or worse.
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:00 PM   #158
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How do you blame JC over alex? Now I know you are insane.

Might as well cut Houston now. BTW There was no Safety help deep because it was a sell out Firehouse blitz, the pressure was supposed to get to Ben before he could make the throw. You guys were lucky there was enough pressure to keep it from being a walk in TD.

Macklin has been hurt all year but with a real QB making better throws he is a star.

I agree you should have drafted better with the 1st over all pick in the draft.

Alex goes anywhere else he does the same or worse.
WRONG. Eric Berry did not blitz. He was in pass coverage and there were 3 receivers left, 1 receiver right. Wanna guess which direction he went? Middle.
Rather than keeping his eyes on Brown (left side) covered by the slowest defender (Houston), he stayed middle. That is inexcusable.
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Its not about 'replacing Alex' to me. Its about finding our guy that can always have us in contention, even if our defense isn't loaded with talent or we aren't stocked with weapons.

Right now, we have to be damn near perfect to win a playoff game. Its how it is when you are trying to win a championship with a game manager.

I'll never be a Alex hater and I never have been, but KC deserves more. Too much talent going to waste.
I think this is not really accurate. The Chiefs were no where near perfect on Sunday night and they still lost by only 2 freaking points. If any ONE of those dropped passes get caught and converted into field goal... Chiefs win, If Smith doesn't flush from the pocket early and sees Hill - Chiefs win, If Tamba is one foot to the left and knocks Rapelessburger over, 3 come off the board, and the Chiefs win, If the defense just forces one more punt, Chiefs win, you could go on and on and I'm not talking about a culmination of all of these things... just one. Chiefs didn't need to be perfect with Smith, they just needed ONE of these things to happen. One play better, any one of these guys to step up.

Go get your QB KC. Pick him in the first round and God Bless the KC Chiefs.
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This team has steadily improved year after year. We finally will go into 2017 with 3 respectable receivers and an offensive line not ranked in the bottom 25%. All of this accomplished WITHOUT Jamaal Charles, the guy who was the biggest star on the team.

Smith is here to stay through 2017. It's a make or break year for him. But all of the dramatic girls on CP think he'll be gone this season. Don't hold your breath.
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Last 4 SB winners...
Denver Broncos ranked 16th in offensive yards/game
New England Pats ranked 11th in offensive yards/game
Seattle Seahawks ranked 17th in offensive yards/game
Baltimore Ravens ranked 16th in offensive yards/game


If this isn't convincing evidence that Defenses have predominately been the reason teams win the Lombardi...
In the playoffs...
Broncos averaged 22 points per game and never scored less than 20.
Patriots averaged 36 points per game and never scored less than 28.
Seahawks averaged 29 points per game and never scored less than 23.
Ravens averaged 31 points per game and never scored less than 24.

Notice a theme about teams that win? They score points.
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