Football Should the NFL overtime rules be changed? - Page 11

Deberg_1990 · 09-21-2014, 08:30 PM

Forehead did not seem pleased.....

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The winner of a classic football game should never be determined by pure, dumb luck.
Unlike the Super Bowl, the only difference Sunday between the Broncos and Seattle was a flip of the coin. “We felt like we were the better team,” Broncos defensive tackle Terrance Knighton said.

Not to take anything away from the Seahawks’ 26-20 overtime victory against Denver, but if there’s anything we’ve learned from the NFL of late, it’s this: What’s fair got to do with anything in this league? And the more the rules change, the less we trust that justice is truly being served.

After Denver rallied from a 14-point deficit in the fourth quarter on the road in the NFL’s rowdiest stadium, the silence of stunned Seahawks fans was deafening as quarterback Peyton Manning represented the Broncos on the coin flip to determine which team would get the football to begin overtime.
Manning called tails.
The Seahawks won.
NFL overtime rules are stupid.

“It puts a premium on the coin toss,” Manning said. “I called tails at the beginning of the game, and went with it again in overtime. It was heads, and it proved to be a significant call. But that’s the way it is. And you’d like to not leave it to that, leave it to get to that situation.”
Manning was forced to stand and watch as Seattle marched 80 yards for a touchdown on the opening possession of overtime. No doubt, Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson was fantastic on the game-winning drive. When a fierce 6-yard run by Marshawn Lynch gave sudden death to Denver’s remarkable comeback, Broncos linebacker Nate Irving and his defensive teammates were so emotionally stunned their feet no longer seemed to work. They stood near the goal line, nobody wanting to go home.
Did this qualify as a moral victory after the 43-8 blowout in the Super Bowl? Knighton certainly didn’t want a juice box and a condescending pat on the head. “You either win or you lose ... We’re not saying, ‘At least the score is better than the Super Bowl’ or anything like that,” Knighton insisted.

Manning has become known in Denver, thanks to imaginative T-shirt makers and excitable fans, as PFM. Maybe I’ve finally figured out what those three letters mean: Pray for miracles.
In the hands of Manning, miracles happen.
While the NFL’s most beautiful mind was stumped by the Seahawks for the vast majority of four quarters and Denver’s offensive game plan appeared so simplistic you might have wondered if it had been written in crayon, Manning willed the Broncos 80 yards in the final 59 seconds of the fourth quarter to tie the game, despite the hindrance of no timeouts to stop the clock.

Manning hit a wide-open Jacob Tamme with a 26-yard pass for the touchdown, then found Demaryius Thomas against Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman to convert the essential two points after the TD.
Prayer answered.

“That’s what makes him Peyton Manning,” said Wilson, with obvious respect for one of the NFL’s elder statesmen. “That’s what makes him one of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game.”

Then, however, Manning was forced to sit and watch overtime. Maybe NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should have bought Manning a pretzel and beer. In 2012, the league amended its overtime rules to allow each team to possess the ball at least once in the extra period, unless a touchdown is scored on the opening drive by the lucky bums who win the coin flip.
That’s stupid. Let’s simplify the rules: If the teams have fought into an overtime, haven’t both teams earned the right to touch the football at least once?

Yes, Tim Tebow gave Denver fans one of the biggest playoff thrills in franchise history by beating Pittsburgh in overtime on an 80-yard bolt from the blue.
But has Hollywood ever required Denzel Washington or Harrison Ford to sit out the last reel when things got dicey and the audience prayed for a miracle from the movie’s hero?
“We’re not going to change the rules,” said Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. “But I would’ve liked our chances if we got our ‘O’ back out there.”
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Garcia Bronco · 09-22-2014, 09:56 AM

Overtime rules are fine. They shouldn't have changed them at all due to the physical nature of the game. Broncos had a chance in overtime and they couldn't get the job done. End of story.

GloucesterChief · 09-22-2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Absolutely correct. The rules are fine. Score more than 5 points in the first 3+ quarters and this isn't an issue.

Broncos.

They probably shouldn't of gotten that safety either. On the previous play I am not sure why Ware wasn't flagged for defensive delay of game. The refs were telling him to get off of Wilson for at least a good 20 seconds. Not to mention the Donk that came in late while everybody else was standing around.

Garcia Bronco · 09-22-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

They probably shouldn't of gotten that safety either. On the previous play I am not sure why Ware wasn't flagged for defensive delay of game. The refs were telling him to get off of Wilson for at least a good 20 seconds. Not to mention the Donk that came in late while everybody else was standing around.

He fumbled the ball and they we fighting for it. Much ado about nothing.

WhiteWhale · 09-22-2014, 10:32 AM

I have to read this shit every time football frankenstein loses an overtime game.

"The rules aren't fair"

Every team in the ****ing league plays by the same rules.

TEX · 09-22-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

They are crying a ****ing river at the Mange right now over this.

Nobody was bitching when Tebow bombed Thomas in OT against Pitt a few years ago.

This

Mile High Mania · 09-22-2014, 10:50 AM

Time for those that didn't like the ending to move on...

lcarus · 09-22-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

Watching the greatest qb you'll ever see not get to continue unimaginable throws. You know, stuff like that is fun to watch.

So your argument is, that since it's Peyton Manning, they should give the other team a chance even if they give up a TD? Sorry, the rules are the rules. There's more to a football team than just the quarterback. Defense is an equal part of the team.

Dayze · 09-22-2014, 11:17 AM

Just do away with scoring and have judges determine the winner. Like dancing with the stars.

**ptlyon** · 09-22-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

So your argument is, that since it's Peyton Manning, they should give the other team a chance even if they give up a TD? Sorry, the rules are the rules. There's more to a football team than just the quarterback. Defense is an equal part of the team.

Yet could be decided by the lowly kicker

lcarus · 09-22-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Yet could be decided by the lowly kicker

Special teams matters

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-22-2014, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Just do away with scoring and have judges determine the winner. Like dancing with the stars.

ThaVirus · 09-22-2014, 12:14 PM

They're complaining about a couple no-calls on NFL Primetime. One they say should have been called roughing the passer when Michael Bennett launched himself at Peyton's head and another was on the Chancellor INT in which Earl Thomas hit Welker while defenseless.

The kicker? They said "Would these penalties have been called if it were any other team?"

suzzer99 · 09-22-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Ahh, well in that case, your plan is not acceptable because it gives a tremendous advantage to the winner of the coin flip.

Not really. When you go second you know if they other team scored nothing, 3, or 7. So you get a lot of advantage back by knowing what you have to score to win. I'm pretty sure there is still a lot more advantage to winning the coin flip under the current plan where you can score a TD and end the game.

Ted Theodore Logan · 09-22-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

So your argument is, that since it's Peyton Manning, they should give the other team a chance even if they give up a TD? Sorry, the rules are the rules. There's more to a football team than just the quarterback. Defense is an equal part of the team.

Peyton in NOT the goat...not by a LONG shot!
Do you realize Lenny has a better winning % in the Super Bowl than Manning?
Lenny is .500
Manning is .333
Joe Montana is 4 for 4 and no ints.
Eli his own brother is even better at 2 for 2
**** PEYTON MANNING WITH A BIG RUBBER DICK!

Garcia Bronco · 09-22-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted Theodore Logan

Peyton in NOT the goat...not by a LONG shot!
Do you realize Lenny has a better winning % in the Super Bowl than Manning?
Lenny is .500
Manning is .333
Joe Montana is 4 for 4 and no ints.
Eli his own brother is even better at 2 for 2
**** PEYTON MANNING WITH A BIG RUBBER DICK!

Peyton Manning is one of the best QBs ever. Get over it.

09-21-2014, 08:30 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3474454	Should the NFL overtime rules be changed? Forehead did not seem pleased..... http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawk...post22xml.html The winner of a classic football game should never be determined by pure, dumb luck. Unlike the Super Bowl, the only difference Sunday between the Broncos and Seattle was a flip of the coin. “We felt like we were the better team,” Broncos defensive tackle Terrance Knighton said. Not to take anything away from the Seahawks’ 26-20 overtime victory against Denver, but if there’s anything we’ve learned from the NFL of late, it’s this: What’s fair got to do with anything in this league? And the more the rules change, the less we trust that justice is truly being served. After Denver rallied from a 14-point deficit in the fourth quarter on the road in the NFL’s rowdiest stadium, the silence of stunned Seahawks fans was deafening as quarterback Peyton Manning represented the Broncos on the coin flip to determine which team would get the football to begin overtime. Manning called tails. The Seahawks won. NFL overtime rules are stupid. “It puts a premium on the coin toss,” Manning said. “I called tails at the beginning of the game, and went with it again in overtime. It was heads, and it proved to be a significant call. But that’s the way it is. And you’d like to not leave it to that, leave it to get to that situation.” Manning was forced to stand and watch as Seattle marched 80 yards for a touchdown on the opening possession of overtime. No doubt, Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson was fantastic on the game-winning drive. When a fierce 6-yard run by Marshawn Lynch gave sudden death to Denver’s remarkable comeback, Broncos linebacker Nate Irving and his defensive teammates were so emotionally stunned their feet no longer seemed to work. They stood near the goal line, nobody wanting to go home. Did this qualify as a moral victory after the 43-8 blowout in the Super Bowl? Knighton certainly didn’t want a juice box and a condescending pat on the head. “You either win or you lose ... We’re not saying, ‘At least the score is better than the Super Bowl’ or anything like that,” Knighton insisted. Manning has become known in Denver, thanks to imaginative T-shirt makers and excitable fans, as PFM. Maybe I’ve finally figured out what those three letters mean: Pray for miracles. In the hands of Manning, miracles happen. While the NFL’s most beautiful mind was stumped by the Seahawks for the vast majority of four quarters and Denver’s offensive game plan appeared so simplistic you might have wondered if it had been written in crayon, Manning willed the Broncos 80 yards in the final 59 seconds of the fourth quarter to tie the game, despite the hindrance of no timeouts to stop the clock. Manning hit a wide-open Jacob Tamme with a 26-yard pass for the touchdown, then found Demaryius Thomas against Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman to convert the essential two points after the TD. Prayer answered. “That’s what makes him Peyton Manning,” said Wilson, with obvious respect for one of the NFL’s elder statesmen. “That’s what makes him one of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game.” Then, however, Manning was forced to sit and watch overtime. Maybe NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should have bought Manning a pretzel and beer. In 2012, the league amended its overtime rules to allow each team to possess the ball at least once in the extra period, unless a touchdown is scored on the opening drive by the lucky bums who win the coin flip. That’s stupid. Let’s simplify the rules: If the teams have fought into an overtime, haven’t both teams earned the right to touch the football at least once? Yes, Tim Tebow gave Denver fans one of the biggest playoff thrills in franchise history by beating Pittsburgh in overtime on an 80-yard bolt from the blue. But has Hollywood ever required Denzel Washington or Harrison Ford to sit out the last reel when things got dicey and the audience prayed for a miracle from the movie’s hero? “We’re not going to change the rules,” said Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. “But I would’ve liked our chances if we got our ‘O’ back out there.” Fade to black.
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09-22-2014, 09:56 AM	#151
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $4853136	Overtime rules are fine. They shouldn't have changed them at all due to the physical nature of the game. Broncos had a chance in overtime and they couldn't get the job done. End of story.
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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1542369	They're complaining about a couple no-calls on NFL Primetime. One they say should have been called roughing the passer when Michael Bennett launched himself at Peyton's head and another was on the Chancellor INT in which Earl Thomas hit Welker while defenseless. The kicker? They said "Would these penalties have been called if it were any other team?"
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