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Old 11-01-2018, 10:48 AM  
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Okay, I'm not a drinker so maybe this is obvious, but it's not obvious to me.

There are all sorts of alcohol - beer, wine, whiskey, bourbon, rum, scotch, gin, vodka, tequila, port wines, and so on.

I recognize that there are probably big differences in brand quality within those major categories. Bud Light is different than some German monk artisanal brand. But put that aside. Let's just think about categories ACROSS types of alcohol.

What's the hierarchy of quality or prestige or whatever? Is gin generally "better" than rum? Is scotch "better" than bourbon? Is wine "better" than tequila?

Can someone give me a top to bottom rank of the "best" alcohol down to the "worst" alcohol?
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:43 PM   #151
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I need to add Rum to the bottom of my list. It’s worse than gin. It’s so bad I’d completely wiped it from my memory until this thread. I’m gagging as I type.
I had no idea after all these years that you were a communist. This is like an episode of "The Americans."
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:45 PM   #152
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Good more rum for me. Rum is the best spirit for mixed drinks.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:48 PM   #153
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:51 PM   #154
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I had no idea after all these years that you were a communist. This is like an episode of "The Americans."
Dude. Rum is the national liquor of Cuba. Rum is as commie as it gets.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:53 PM   #155
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Dude. Rum is the national liquor of Cuba. Rum is as commie as it gets.
I'm talking about his gin bigotry.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:55 PM   #156
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I'm talking about his gin bigotry.
Carry on then. The English merely lean socialist.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:45 PM   #157
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Many of the Ryes you get aren't made by the label. Take, for instance, High West Rye. Is it brewed with the other whiskeys in Park City, UT?

Nope.

It comes from Indiana. Midwest Grain Products of Indiana, or MGP for short.

What other awesome Ryes you love are actually all the same shit from MGP? The list will depress you:


Angel's Envy
Bulleit Rye
Filibuster
George Dickel Rye
High West
James E. Pepper
Redemption
Smooth Ambler
Templeton Rye


Everything you know is a lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGP_of_Indiana
That is true of a lot of different liquors. And there is a lot of hype and conspicuous consumption.

It doesn't take that much money to make clean vodka that is nothing but alcohol and water. After that, you are paying for status. Or you are paying for flavored vodka, which is fine, if usually overpriced and you could always start with straight vodka and flavor it yourself.

I've read experiments where typical wine drinkers will rate a wine higher if they think it came from a $40 bottle than when the exact same wine came out of a $10 bottle.

And then much the rest of it is an acquired taste. That doesn't mean it is not enjoyable.

Every couple months or so I will go to a snobbish cocktail bar in SF and have a couple of overpriced cocktails. I usually prefer one with a rye/bourbon base, some type of sweet liqueur and then some type of bitter vermouth/aperitif to offset the sweetness, and served up. I realize I'm paying for the "experience" as much as the alcohol. That's fine. I don't do it that often.

For instance here is a recent one I liked:

bourbon, Cointreau, maraschino, amer, Angostura and
Peychaud’s bitters

I will then, depending on how hard and expensive it is to find the ingredients, try making it at home.

I've done blind taste tests with different ryes for instance. I can tell a cocktail made with a super cheap bottle, but once you get up to comparing $25 bottles with $50+, I could no longer tell a difference between the two side by side cocktails. The vermouth/aperitif are also over priced, but they are distinctive in a way that rye, for instance, is not. So I've accumulated a stock of those over time.

The only premium base alcohol that I could consistently tell apart in a blind cocktail test from a moderately priced one is aged tequila versus the cheaper, less aged tequila. The cocktail made with a $25 bottle of tequila had an aftertaste that the $50 one did not. That was not the case with the rye and bourbons that I experimented with.
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All the anti-gin bigotry in this thread is proof that the America I once knew is finished as a nation.

Bunch of slack-jawed philistines. Can't appreciate the beauty of a classic martini, extra dry, with a twist of lemon. (How dry? I pour an ounce of vermouth over ice in a mixer, shake it up, strain it out, then pour the gin in and gently stir. Churchill's method was to open the bottle of vermouth, say "vermouth," then close it back up.)

Nothing better than a well-made martini before a steak dinner, accompanied by a bold Cabernet, finished with a fine cigar and single-malt scotch.

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All the anti-gin bigotry in this thread is proof that the America I once knew is finished as a nation.

Bunch of slack-jawed philistines. Can't appreciate the beauty of a classic martini, extra dry, with a twist of lemon. (How dry? I pour an ounce of vermouth over ice in a mixer, shake it up, strain it out, then pour the gin in and gently stir. Churchill's method was to open the bottle of vermouth, say "vermouth," then close it back up.)

Nothing better than a well-made martini before a steak dinner, accompanied by a bold Cabernet, finished with a fine cigar and single-malt scotch.

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I love a gin martini. Either with Hendricks, Malfy, Brokers, or Uncle Vals
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For you vodka lovers, I've found an incredible value brand... its called Lux, distilled 7 times and very smooth

I used to be on a big premium vodka kick, but its really just a waste of money... I get a 5th of Lux for $8
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I can’t believe so many people are out of the closet with their ungodly gin perversions these days. It’s all over the place. Just the other day I turned the TV on for the first time in a long time and just about every show seemed to have a gin drinking character in it if not a full gin drinking plotline.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t have any problem with those people drinking their gin in their own homes, but I don’t want to have to smell their Christmas tree breath in public.
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