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Old 04-30-2013, 06:11 PM  
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ESPN Audibles talking Chiefs

Right now. Everyone, even Herm is saying that the Chiefs are going to challenge the Broncos for the AFC West this upcoming season. Herm thought we drafted well. At least we're getting some love from ESPN. Haters, it's time to hate.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #151
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Sooo, Elvis Grbac, team commander. Got it.
Wait. Did you just equate Elvis Grbac to Alex Smith? That's like doing my job for me there.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:26 PM   #152
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Wait. Did you just equate Elvis Grbac to Alex Smith? That's like doing my job for me there.
No, but that situation might have informed future generations about how to handle the hot hand at QB.

Nice how you're not only concentrating your AS eggs, but you're doubling down on CK eggs [2nd year QB in gimmick offense . . . . who was a play away from winning the SB.]



I KNOW you'll be eating crow on that remark in years to come.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:34 PM   #153
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The reason to hate Herman ****ing Edwards is the fact that he had did not evolve with the game.
He believed, and still believes that you win by running the ball, controlling the clock, and playing defense.
That formula is no longer a valid formula to win championships.





Jim Harbaugh and the staff did an outstanding job of minimizing Alex Smith's limitations by giving him opportunities to be successful on early downs.

There is, however, a reason that Alex Smith and the 9ers, were among the worst in the league at converting 3rd down opportunities.

Alex Smith's limitations.

Yes, he was leashed.
I remember Herm saying that "you can win by kickig FG's. "
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:39 PM   #154
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No, but that situation might have informed future generations about how to handle the hot hand at QB.

Nice how you're not only concentrating your AS eggs, but you're doubling down on CK eggs [2nd year QB in gimmick offense . . . . who was a play away from winning the SB.]



I KNOW you'll be eating crow on that remark in years to come.
I'm not a big Kaepernick fan. I realize I'm out on a limb there, but I think he'll have to do a lot of work to repeat his 2012 success. I don't think the run option/pistol will be as successful moving forward. I think his season was and is more of a testament to just how good that SF team is put together, and it does color my impression of Smith.

And I've never said that Smith can't be successful here, at least to a limited degree. All I've ever said is that I believe they vastly overpaid for him. Although I don't believe he'll find success unless they rely heavily on the running game the way that San Francisco did. I don't believe he has the arm to execute the kind of deep throws that Reid usually incorporates into his version of the WCO, and I don't think an offense centered around passing rather than running (which is Reid's MO) will be effective here with Alex Smith behind center. I think, if they're a playoff team under Reid with AS behind center, it will be because he's shifted away from his normal offense, and we're relying heavily on Charles. Which is why I didn't and don't think the trade made sense. Alex Smith doesn't fit what Andy Reid generally does, any more than Matt Barkley did.

So that's my thoughts on Smith, just so I'm not lumped in arbitrarily with everyone else who just throws out "he sucks". I think they can win games with him and I think they may even win a playoff game with him behind center, but I don't believe that if they ever become a contending team with him at QB that it will be because he's at quarterback. I think he's an interchangeable piece.
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Text removed b/c I just hate scrolling through tons of reposts and reposts of reposts, esp when lengthy
Fair enough, like I said, just staking my claim for posterity. I've probably argued this far more than I ever intended at this point.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:53 PM   #156
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I hope you're right, and I hope my expectations are far exceeded. I'm certainly not saying any of this because I want to be able to come back in four years and say "see! I told you so!". It's just what I think of him...
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:08 PM   #157
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Anyone who thinks we're winning 4 or 5 games next year really has no idea what they're watching every Sunday. It was pretty clear last year that the team had given up on the QB, and the leadership in general. They'll be over .500 this year. I'd bet on it.
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