|
11-21-2017, 04:16 PM | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $2514454
|
David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.
The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday. I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback. Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1). Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season. September: 92.0 October: 111.1 November: 63.5 Dec.-Jan.: 68.8 The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses. I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses. It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-limits-chiefs |
Posts: 66,914
|
11-22-2017, 10:43 PM | #151 |
The Beast Inside Your Head
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Casino cash: $579122
|
|
Posts: 26,018
|
11-22-2017, 11:13 PM | #152 |
Mahomosapien
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: the great white north
Casino cash: $214902
|
|
Posts: 6,121
|
11-22-2017, 11:27 PM | #153 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $604497
|
Can't wait for a real qb to come in so we can prove once and for all how wrong this idea is. Our receivers play like shit because our qb won't throw them the ball, including one of the most explosive receivers in the game. Our RB is struggling because defenses are loading 8 in a box. Our ol is struggling because our qb can't stretch a simple cover 2. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that defenses are specifically scheming against our qbs limitations.
This is football. It's a team sport but the qb is by far the most influential piece. And in the last 5 games, our qb has played like complete dog shit. |
Posts: 49,266
|
11-23-2017, 12:17 AM | #154 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: overland park
Casino cash: $9447081
|
Quote:
Its like what some commentator said last week. They really have no offensive identity right now .....other than trick plays. |
|
Posts: 2,647
|
11-23-2017, 08:32 AM | #155 | |
Still Got The Blues (For You)
Join Date: May 2013
Casino cash: $10014178
|
Quote:
Who is willing, and not the slackass that I am. |
|
Posts: 16,482
|
11-23-2017, 08:44 AM | #156 | |
Best Body On ChiefsPlanet
Join Date: Jan 2014
Casino cash: $1534900
|
Quote:
It is not a simple zone defense. If you think it is so easy, you go out and you try beating it. Defenses are disguising it well and confusing him. And it is not just the passing game that is struggling, our running game is horrible right now. Teams are not stacking the box, zone D gets killed when you do that they are running a base zone D. Our running has got to improve as well posters here just don't like to talk about that because it does not involve criticizing Smitty. Reid deserves blame too he's the one who is calling the plays. Reid will figure the zone D out. Reid and Smitty are both too good not to. I'm confident things will change. What defenses are trying is working right now but it will not work forever. Smitty will get back on track. I'm actually glad it is happening now. Gives us time to figure it out before the playoffs start. A lot of you just like to panic like a nuclear war is going to happen because of a few bad games. Either they will figure it out and get this ship going in the right direction but even if they don't we have Mahomes for next season so it is not the end of the world. Either way, life goes on. |
|
Posts: 6,062
|
11-23-2017, 08:51 AM | #157 | |
Dumbass!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $10029395
|
Quote:
If Alex Smith was half as smart as most seem to think he is, he should have had it figured out 10 years ago.
__________________
|
|
Posts: 70,769
|
11-23-2017, 08:57 AM | #158 | |
Best Body On ChiefsPlanet
Join Date: Jan 2014
Casino cash: $1534900
|
Quote:
Like I said either way, Reid will eventually figure it out. He's too good a HC not to |
|
Posts: 6,062
|
0 1 |
11-23-2017, 09:05 AM | #159 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $604497
|
Quote:
Defenses went back to what was stopping him in the past. They're stacking against the run. They're abandoning all deep zones and focusing exclusively on the flats. When you play with such a ridiculously short field, you can be a hell of a lot more aggressive at rushing the passer. Playing zone doesn't mean playing passive. The steelers beat us because they played aggressive zone with a lot of disguise and other teams are copycatting them. And it's working. And we all know the solution that Alex will never do. Be aggressive, take some chances, throw the ball in tight windows on timing routes, stretch the field to keep the defense honest. Teams are abandoning deep zones and we're still relying exclusively on this checkdown nonsense. Playcalling did a great job masking Alex Smith early in the year. But playcalling isn't going to Loosen up the defense. That is squarely on Alex Smith to be a little less Alex Smith. We know he's capable of doing it and that's the frustrating part. He just won't do it because it's not the safe thing to do. |
|
Posts: 49,266
|
11-23-2017, 09:07 AM | #160 |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $8699447
|
If you're still hoping for Alex to turn back into the guy we saw the first month of the season, you're like a little kid hoping the dog that ran away a month ago comes back home... hell, its more like hoping the dog comes back to life that you watched die with your own eyes.
It's over. Alex Smith is who he is and it will never change. This team will not be able to win when it counts most with him. |
Posts: 26,798
|
11-23-2017, 09:10 AM | #161 | |
Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $769611
|
Quote:
His QB isn't figuring it out on the field.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley |
|
Posts: 47,704
|
11-23-2017, 09:11 AM | #162 | |
Best Body On ChiefsPlanet
Join Date: Jan 2014
Casino cash: $1534900
|
Quote:
F**k out of here with that BS. If Broncos can win a SB with an old limp d**k Peyton Manning then you can win a SB in the NFL with pretty much any half decent QB. |
|
Posts: 6,062
|
11-23-2017, 09:12 AM | #163 |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $8699447
|
Did you watch their defense in 2015? Not even Alex Smith could f**k that up.
|
Posts: 26,798
|
11-23-2017, 09:17 AM | #164 | |
Dumbass!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $10029395
|
Quote:
He's a mediocre, dumbass QB.
__________________
|
|
Posts: 70,769
|
11-23-2017, 09:18 AM | #165 | |
Andy Reid Supporter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $769611
|
Quote:
7 of 9 Chiefs losses the last 2 years were when the Chiefs gave up 19 points or less. Quit being stupid, dumbass.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley |
|
Posts: 47,704
|
|
|