Chiefs The Clarks Love Money More than Vets - Page 11

**gblowfish** · 05-08-2015, 08:30 AM

Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section.

Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts.

The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible.

Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do.

I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports

During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute.

It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers.

According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard.

U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report:

“Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” …

“They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.”

Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write.

The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending:

Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events.

Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park.

The Jets also provided game access passes.

A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising.

According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.

**Saulbadguy** · 05-10-2015, 05:36 PM

Now i'll no longer feel awkward about not joining in on the standing ovation.

crazycoffey · 05-10-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Hah!

Which ones? The ones we created and USED on two large cities filled with innocent civilians? Or the ones we said "they" had when we invaded? Those ones that didn't exist?

They did exist, you ****ing idiot. It's already been debunked that there weren't even in the most liberal of Internet BBs. Saying this is like saying you still believe mike Brown had his hands up.

crazycoffey · 05-10-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

See that's the thing, it has been proven, its a fact.

And yes we are still the only country to use a large scale WMD and it was 100% necessary. We didn't start that war but we ended it.

However chemical weapons have been used in Iraq many times in the last 10 or so years. Just not large scale.

Chemical weapons are indeed WMD. We are not the only country to use WMDs, we are the only one to use nuclear bombs. Nuclear bombs are WMDs but when WMDs are discussed everyone assumes nuclear bombs like the two dropped on japan or the missile types from the Cold War. But uranium can be used in "dirty bombs", nasty stuff, however blister agents, nerve gas, biological warfare, are all more commonly used, even today in Africa, it's equally disturbing and very deadly to large scale proportions.

**srvy** · 05-10-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

My parents spanked me and I'm not an idiot.

Your parents spanked you and you are an idiot.

What's the relevance?

Ouch you crushed me and now my feelings are hurt.

But no matter what I am your idiotic comments are going about 3-1 against ya.

**J Diddy** · 05-10-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

My parents spanked me and I'm not an idiot.

Your parents spanked you and you are an idiot.

What's the relevance?

Mine didn't enjoy it.

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kcbubb · 05-10-2015, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Honest question do you really think the current/recent soldiers over in Iraq and Afghanistan are fighting for our freedom? If so I have some beachfront property in Oklahoma I'd like to sell you.

That's not a bash on the military. Certainly there were those conflicts where we were on the brink of Nazi control. You can most definitely say that our WW2 and Cold War vets fought for our freedom. But other than that, our out of control govt (in which many have never fought in wars) plays our troops like a bunch of pawns in a global chess game. It's sickening.

Wow. You are crazy. The guys that have been there can tell first hand that our enemy is real. They kill there own in attempt to recruit to kill us. Our soldiers sign up to fight this evil. Talk to someone who's been there and seen the bodies. We are the richest country in world. And we are nearing energy independence. Your logic doesn't hold up. Democrats like al gore & Obama want gas to be sky high to spur innovation and limit the use of fossil fuels in order to slow or prevent global warming. Why would Obama send troops if he wants oil prices to be high? Your logic doesn't make sense.

ThaVirus · 05-10-2015, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

See that's the thing, it has been proven, its a fact.

And yes we are still the only country to use a large scale WMD and it was 100% necessary. We didn't start that war but we ended it.

However chemical weapons have been used in Iraq many times in the last 10 or so years. Just not large scale.

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

They did exist, you ****ing idiot. It's already been debunked that there weren't even in the most liberal of Internet BBs. Saying this is like saying you still believe mike Brown had his hands up.

Link me, brahs.

All the information I've found about the subject is controversial as all balls. They found some long-abandoned shells from the 80s, not an active WMD program like it was reported before we invaded.

Plus, if what they're saying is true, the government knew about it, exposed troops to chemical nerve agents, didn't get them proper medical care, then told the public they didn't find anything. If THAT'S true, then it just strengthens my argument. Our government is shady as **** and can't be trusted.

**Rausch** · 05-10-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Our government is shady as **** and can't be trusted.

You should have just posted this...

**Mav** · 05-10-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

If you still believe there were no WMD's in Iraq you aren't paying any attention or simply prefer to believe what you have been fed for years on end.

Its simply a statement of the uninformed.

And it was exposed by Wikileaks which obviously is not pro govt.

Bingo....

**Mav** · 05-10-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Yeah, at the risk of being offensive, I've got a big problem with Islam. I'm an atheist, so all religions are witchcraft nonsense to me, but most religions are at least fairly harmless and sometimes even beneficial. "Modern" Muslims who pick and choose what to follow and just kinda-sorta follow the Qur'an, ignoring the more violent parts are fine too.

These ISIS guys are just faithfully following their religion and doing what their book says. Its a very violent war-making crazy religion.

That's not Islam. Islam at its roots isn't evil. This is a version that has been poisoned to fit evil men's ideals.

**Mav** · 05-10-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Saddam was one of our allies until he wanted to get away from the US petro dollar. Once he didn't do what our govt wanted, we did everything we could to get his ass out of power.

Well, I think more than anything it was them invading Kuwait that pissed us off.

ThaVirus · 05-11-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Disenfranchisement? Where is this happening in the world?

Oooooh, I don't know how I originally missed this gem...

In my post you initially quoted I was obviously talking about blacks in America. I don't need to explain to you how black Americans were systematically disenfranchised, do I?

Sorter · 05-11-2015, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

If you don't know what the holocaust is ....

The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος holókaustos: hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt"),[2] also known as the Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, HaShoah, "the catastrophe"), was a genocide in which approximately six million Jews were killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.[3] Some historians use a definition of the Holocaust that includes the additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, bringing the total to approximately eleven million. Killings took place throughout Nazi Germany and German-occupied territories.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

What!!!???

When did this happen?

**gblowfish** · 05-11-2015, 10:03 AM

Well...this thread has been hijacked in so many directions I need a GPS just to find the back of my ass.

Got an email from the Chiefs marketing weasels asking about my satisfaction as a season ticket holder.

I told them to lower the price of pre season games as my biggest beef/suggestion. Oh, and quit taking money to salute vets. Or if they do take the money, add to it and donate every penny to veteran friendly causes. Jerks. Man, I'm still pissed off about that whole thing. They better do something to clean that mess up pronto.

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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	The Clarks Love Money More than Vets Apologies if posted before, and maybe this ought to be in the DC section. Washington Post reports that the Federal Military has paid millions to the NFL to "salute" veterans. The Clarks took $250,000. So much for the NFL saluting soldiers out of the goodness of their hearts. The Chiefs don't need the money. They should send that cash back to the military to buy body armor for active service guys, so we wouldn't have so many "wounded warriors" to salute. This whole thing makes me more cynical than I already am, if that's even possible. Just salute veterans because its the right thing to do, and pick up the goddamn check. They put their lives on the line for us, it's the least a tax-exempt, multi-billion dollar enterprise like the NFL can do. I didn't get a harrrump outta that guy...... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rss=rss_sports During timeouts at home games, the New York Jets air a Hometown Heroes segment in which a U.S. soldier or two are shown on the Jumbotron and everyone thanks them for their service. The soldiers and three friends get seats in the Coaches Club. It’s a nice salute. It’s also funded by U.S. taxpayers. According to Christopher Baxter and Jonathan D. Salant of New Jersey Advance Media, the Department of Defense paid 14 NFL teams $5.4 million from 2011 to 2014 for salutes like the Hometown Heroes segment and other advertising at professional football games. All but $100,000 of that money came from the National Guard. U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the spending wasteful and disingenuous, Baxter and Salant report: “Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” Flake said in an interview. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.” … “They realize the public believes they’re doing it as a public service or a sense of patriotism,” Flake said. “It leaves a bad taste in your mouth.” Flake added that he has no problem with the National Guard spending money on recruitment advertising at football games. “The problem, he said, was spending taxpayer money on a program that, on its face, appeared to be a generous gesture by a football team,” Baxter and Salant write. The story goes on to detail what the National Guard gets in return for its spending: Aside from the Hometown Heroes segment, the agreements also included advertising and marketing services, including a kickoff video message from the Guard, digital advertising on stadium screens, online advertising and meeting space for a meeting or events. Also, soldiers attended the annual kickoff lunch in New York City to meet and take pictures with the players for promotional use, and the Jets allowed soldiers to participate in a charity event in which coaches and players build or rebuild a playground or park. The Jets also provided game access passes. A National Guard spokesman said the agreement with the Jets helps promote and increase “the public’s understanding and appreciation of military service in the New Jersey Army National Guard increases the propensity for service in our ranks and garners public support for our Hometown Team.” A Jets spokesman says the team works with the National Guard just as it works with any other sponsor to tailor in-game advertising. According to the report, the Colts and Ravens are among the other teams that have similar agreements with the National Guard.
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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17596178 VARSITY	Well...this thread has been hijacked in so many directions I need a GPS just to find the back of my ass. Got an email from the Chiefs marketing weasels asking about my satisfaction as a season ticket holder. I told them to lower the price of pre season games as my biggest beef/suggestion. Oh, and quit taking money to salute vets. Or if they do take the money, add to it and donate every penny to veteran friendly causes. Jerks. Man, I'm still pissed off about that whole thing. They better do something to clean that mess up pronto.
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