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Old 11-24-2014, 10:34 AM  
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Looking ahead to Sunday Night

What can the last game at KC tell us ... if anything? First glance, KC let off the throttle - enjoyed a 1H lead thanks to the KO return and Manning/Decker were insanely in synch, especially after halftime.

Should be a cold one, as the high looks like 37 with a low of 29 - so at kickoff it's likely freezing. We'll see, the high on Saturday is 57 and on Monday it's 46, but it doesn't look like it will be wet, so that's good.

The game @ KC a year ago had much warmer temp on 12/1 with 55 degrees at kickoff, so it will be about 20 degrees colder for SNF. Simply being cold and loud is ok, not ideal - but ok.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1312010kan.htm

Last year, the Chiefs were up 21-14 at the half and down 35-21 with 7 minutes left before they scored, making it a 35-28 victory.

KC scored a TD on a 108 yd KO return (Davis), had more rushing yards as a team, won the TO battle and ended with a slight advantage on TOP. And while intercepting Manning twice - they couldn't stop him, and with the KC offense not being set up to win a passing battle, it hurt KC. Although, Smith had nearly 300 yards and 2 TDs.

Eric Decker went nuts (4 TDs total) as he caught 3 in the 2nd half, with Manning throwing for 5 TDs and over 400 yds. Montee Ball actually had a good day. Decker and Ball our gone, replaced by Sanders and CJ Anderson this year.

Travis Kelce is a big add for KC in this one and we'll see what they can do with Avant. Denver's defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down and TEs kill them.

I don't see a combined point total over 60 points again - more like 20-17 (KC), but we'll see what happens.

Manning is only 2 TDs and 243 yards off his record pace in 2013 through 11 games, but the ground game is different now ... and while the defense should be better, they haven't played like it lately consistently enough.

Denver needs Julius back in the lineup.. interestingly enough, he didn't play last year in KC either. Julius returning to the lineup is key for me if Denver can win. If Julius isn't playing, Denver loses... I just think he means that much in a game like this on the road.

Say what you will about reverse mojo, but I'm not expecting a Denver win here... not after the way they've played over the last month.

Obviously, I'm fine being wrong here. Let's have some fun this week.



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Old 11-26-2014, 11:30 AM   #151
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yes, i agree. but that's usually not what happens. they're taken out of the play anyway.

by the time the pick is set, the defender is done unless Manning is somehow getting pressure and messes up the throw.

my point is (and I've done a bad job at explaining it), Denver is giong to run the pick plays regardless. they're going to get DPI and illegal contact penalties called against us anyway. ;so, I would selectively blow up WRs/pick man in certain. situations during the game.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:30 AM   #152
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If you are talking about getting physical regardless of flags the thing to do is hit manning. Dude does not play well when he hears footsteps.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:35 AM   #153
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It's gonna be us by four with 1:09 left to play and the Broncos start at their own 10 yard line. They proceed to drive 90 yards for the winning score...80 of the yards are holding/illegal contact/pass interference yards. /Manning era in Denver
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:50 AM   #154
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I have been reading articles this morning, and the threads on the forum about the game this Sunday. One thing I am positive of right now is that the chiefs kingdom is going to see an extrodinary game full of emotion. We will see the heart of this team and the city poured into this game until the last second ticks off the clock. As lame as it sounds, and what Denver may not want to admit, this is the best team they have faced since Peyton became a Bronco. This team has a lot to play for right now, and will be handful for the Broncos. Emotion will be high - the love this city has for their team and Eric Berry will be on display for the world to see. I have a hard to trying to talk myself out of a win here. Maybe last weekend I would of believed a loss, but today, today my gut my heart and every inch of my being says this is a win now. I lurk in the shadows and read the debates, and trully can see each persons point of view. Im very cautious about buying into this team 100% due to the pain they have dished out over the past two decades. But today....I AM IN 100%. Confident that this team is going to give each other, the coaches, and the city something to be proud of and bring home a victory against a good Broncos team.

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It's gonna be us by four with 1:09 left to play and the Broncos start at their own 10 yard line. They proceed to drive 90 yards for the winning score...80 of the yards are holding/illegal contact/pass interference yards. /Manning era in Denver
Well, let's hope it isn't Denver up four and us with the ball in that scenario. Because we know that wouldn't end in a win either.
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If you are talking about getting physical regardless of flags the thing to do is hit manning. Dude does not play well when he hears footsteps.
Yep. He gets the ball out insanely fast, but we have the speed up front to get to him a couple of times. Manning has never been one to stand tall and deliver the ball in the face of pressure.

He's a crumpling Cassel-level pussy in that regard. Get in his face early and just fluster him. That's our only real shot.
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Old 11-26-2014, 11:58 AM   #157
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I have been reading articles this morning, and the threads on the forum about the game this Sunday. One thing I am positive of right now is that the chiefs kingdom is going to see an extrodinary game full of emotion. We will see the heart of this team and the city poured into this game until the last second ticks off the clock. As lame as it sounds, and what Denver may not want to admit, this is the best team they have faced since Peyton became a Bronco. This team has a lot to play for right now, and will be handful for the Broncos. Emotion will be high - the love this city has for their team and Eric Berry will be on display for the world to see. I have a hard to trying to talk myself out of a win here. Maybe last weekend I would of believed a loss, but today, today my gut my heart and every inch of my being says this is a win now. I lurk in the shadows and read the debates, and trully can see each persons point of view. Im very cautious about buying into this team 100% due to the pain they have dished out over the past two decades. But today....I AM IN 100%. Confident that this team is going to give each other, the coaches, and the city something to be proud of and bring home a victory against a good Broncos team.

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Old 11-26-2014, 12:35 PM   #158
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If you are talking about getting physical regardless of flags the thing to do is hit manning. Dude does not play well when he hears footsteps.
That's why I'd hit the guy whenever possible. If it's close, BRING IT! Because ANYTHING close is gonna get called regardless. So, hit the Prima Donna Mother ****ER - It's well worth the penalty.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:39 PM   #160
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How the NFL schedules hell for the Broncos:

*at Seattle
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(If NFL had known AZ is best Broncos would have played in AZ)
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Seattle was predetermined and they did not play at SF... FFS, that was the game Manning broke the TD record.

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Seattle was predetermined and they did not play at SF... FFS, that was the game Manning broke the TD record.

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EVERYONE KNOWS the home field advantage that Denver has (because of the altitude and because they're very good). Being able to start the year playing 5 of their first 7 at home is a HUGE advantage to a good start. Last year they enjoyed nearly the same kind of treatment (Think it was 4 of 6) . Getting off to a quick start is proven to be advantageous for season-long success. It really wasn't till they had to take things on the road did you see the cracks in the armor. I even told the resident MULE TOOL how that would work out.
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EVERYONE KNOWS the home field advantage that Denver has (because of the altitude and because they're very good). Being able to start the year playing 5 of their first 7 at home is a HUGE advantage to a good start. Last year they enjoyed nearly the same kind of treatment (Think it was 4 of 6) . Getting off to a quick start is proven to be advantageous for season-long success. It really wasn't till they had to take things on the road did you see the cracks in the armor. I even told the resident MULE TOOL how that would work out.
As evidenced by the 2006, 2008 and 2009 Broncos. Those teams started off 7-2, 8-5, and 6-0, and all missed the playoffs. In fact, giving Denver an "easy" early schedule seems more like a cruel joke than an advantage. I put easy in quotes because 7 of the first 8 games were still against serious playoff contenders.
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As evidenced by the 2006, 2008 and 2009 Broncos. Those teams started off 7-2, 8-5, and 6-0, and all missed the playoffs. In fact, giving Denver an "easy" early schedule seems more like a cruel joke than an advantage. I put easy in quotes because 7 of the first 8 games were still against serious playoff contenders.
You didn't have Manning, reerun. That's why you didn't make the playoffs.
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