****Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread ****

[BigRedChief]

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?

• This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
• Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
• Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
• Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
• 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
• Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm just going to come out and say it now: Carlos Martinez is Eduardo Sanchez. That's all he's ever going to be.

More like Manny Aybar.

I'm not ready to give up on the guy just yet. He is too young with too much ability. I'm more worried that he breaks down physically than not being able to get major league hitters out consistently on a regular basis.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was perfectly understandable. I love Dominican accents though.

Regarding Fruit Ninja and Wacha: He's striking out more than a batter an inning, carrying a legit ERA in the mid-2's (no real batted ball luck), and keeping his walk rate respectable while still learning a curve.

We got really lucky with him.

Why did he fall all the way down to us? Did MLB feel change up/fastball wasn't enough?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

His arm isn't good enough to play in a COF spot, nor is his bat (he registers as a league average hitter even when avoiding lefties), he's slow as shit, and he's a bad defensive centerfielder. If you can trade him for a legit bench bat that can hit LHP, do it.

Those balls hit in the first inning with a man on second were hit hard and straight at Jay. Not a chance to throw anyone out. I could probably beat his noodle arm.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Why did he fall all the way down to us? Did MLB feel change up/fastball wasn't enough?
Those balls hit in the first inning with a man on second were hit hard and straight at Jay. Not a chance to throw anyone out. I could probably beat his noodle arm.

He wasn't all that dominant in college. Certainly good, but not a killer. In fact, it was seen as kind of a "meh" draft pick, polished and a quick riser, but a guy that had middle of the rotation upside.

Example:

Scouting reports note that Wacha's fastball sits in the 92-94 mph range, with potential for improvement. Baseball America listed Wacha as the 11th-best pitcher available in the Draft.



Obviously his fastball got a lot better a lot faster than expected.


Here's another article:


http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-michael-wacha

[lewdog]

**** YOU GUYS STARTING TOMORROW!!!




But really....we really suck. Like really suck. More suck than Frazod sucking down multiple hot dogs at the hot dog cart.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He wasn't all that dominant in college. Certainly good, but not a killer. In fact, it was seen as kind of a "meh" draft pick, polished and a quick riser, but a guy that had middle of the rotation upside.

Example:

Scouting reports note that Wacha's fastball sits in the 92-94 mph range, with potential for improvement. Baseball America listed Wacha as the 11th-best pitcher available in the Draft.



Obviously his fastball got a lot better a lot faster than expected.


Here's another article:


http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-michael-wacha

IIRC, he was a 2 pitch guy, FB above average, but an outstanding change-up; breaking ball has been slow, but he's shown improvement.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by lewdog

**** YOU GUYS STARTING TOMORROW!!!




But really....we really suck. Like really suck. More suck than Frazod sucking down multiple hot dogs at the hot dog cart.

Your catching us at a good time. We have lost 5 of the last 7 at home.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Year in, year out, all a pitcher needs to do is be left handed to shut this team down.

[Marcellus]

Mabry and company need fired. This offense is abysmal.

[OnTheWarpath15]

LOL

Being 1-hit by Danny Duffy.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Well, that's the game. Maybe we'll shut 'em out tomorrow.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Ballgame

[Marcellus]

Explain how this team went to the WS last year?

[Marcellus]

****ing Miller is a head case.

[George Liquor]

This team is reeruned.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Explain how this team went to the WS last year?

They went through one of these stretches last year, too. They lost like 8 straight or something like that. Despite the manager, the talent is good enough to bounce back.