Chiefs Panthers rescind franchise tag on Norman, now UFA - Page 10

Jerm · 04-20-2016, 03:38 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...on-josh-norman

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The Philadelphia Eagles' trade up to the No. 2 of the NFL Draft is suddenly not the most surprising news of the day. Josh Norman is now a free agent.

The Carolina Panthers announced the stunning news Wednesday that the team has rescinded the franchise tag for cornerback Josh Norman, making him an unrestricted free agent.

"After a number of conversations with Josh's agent we realized that a long-term deal was not attainable," general manager Dave Gettleman said. "We have decided to rescind the Franchise Tag freeing Josh to immediately become a UFA. We thank Josh for all his contributions and truly wish him well."

Around the NFL will have more on this story soon.

I wish....

jd1020 · 04-20-2016, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart

Just wait until we land him. He wants to play in CA.

So did the Rams, perfect match.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-20-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Jags are still multiple tens of millions under the cap. So are a few other teams. He should break the bank with some desperate team I imagine.

Good. Let him go to the land of perpetual 4-12.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-20-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart

Just wait until we land him. He wants to play in CA.

Yeah, I'm sure he wants to shower in his urine and shit after each game.

Who wouldn't?

DaNewGuy · 04-20-2016, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, I'm sure he wants to shower in his urine and shit after each game.

Who wouldn't?

Chief Roundup · 04-20-2016, 08:45 PM

Mother****erJones · 04-20-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart

Just wait until we land him. He wants to play in CA.

KC swept your bitch asses. You just come in here talk shit in April every year and go away like every other Fader fan like R8ers

Toby Waller · 04-20-2016, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Where does this chart magic come from?

**Buehler445** · 04-20-2016, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart

Just wait until we land him. He wants to play in CA.

Nnamdi Asomugha version 2?

sedated · 04-20-2016, 09:12 PM

I'm not first in saying this but WTF did this guy do to get booted from his franchise tag on a team with the MVP and coming off a Super Bowl appearance?

Given his age, sudden production, and the team looking for another Super Bowl run - this is exactly why the franchise tag was created.

Chief Roundup · 04-20-2016, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Waller

Where does this chart magic come from?

overthecap.com via paint and an online image host.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-20-2016, 10:04 PM

Interesting chess move by the Panthers. No team with the cap space for him is a contender. Norman wants to win.. This should be fun to watch

**Dylan** · 04-20-2016, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Smith, like Norman, had success due to their respective front 7's.

Norman had better choose wisely or he'll be exposed

Bingo!

Josh Norman is a zone cover player. That limits his value. Ask the other corners in the league about him. They all say the same thing.
— Pete Prisco (@PriscoCBS) April 21, 2016

One more thing about Norman: Why only one great year?
— Pete Prisco (@PriscoCBS) April 21, 2016

Chris Burke, NFL writer for Sports Illustrated

Dave Gettleman at the Combine on Josh Norman negotiations:
"I don't believe in drafting (and) developing players for other teams. For some reason it doesn't make sense. So yes, we're going to have the conversation and do the best we can. We're going to try to get a deal done. And if not, there are options and maybe the tag gets used."

(Worried, Norman reacts negatively to tag?)
"Josh is a pro. He's a pro. No, not at all."

https://twitter.com/ChrisBurke_SI/st...06232726507521

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-20-2016, 10:19 PM

I can see it now, Norman won't get the offers he quite expected on the open market and he will return to Carolina for slightly less... Just wait...

**Dylan** · 04-20-2016, 10:27 PM

Maybe Dave Gettleman asked Odell Beckham, Jr., and Julio Jones how good of a CB Josh Norman is.

From Pete Prisco CBS Sports:

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Norman fails to get hands on OBJ. Norman tips man coverage with hand movement. You can see by Norman's alignment that he is in man coverage. He was head up on Beckham Jr. Watch his hands wiggle and move. That is a telltale indicator that he is man-up. You can see it on this play.
On this play, Beckham Jr., was able to beat him with little subtle shove at about the 4-yard line, one that led to Norman complaining about a push off. But it was a veteran move that a lot of receivers use to get open.

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Josh Norman cannot run with Julio Jones and Odell Beckham.

Julio Jones had 7 receptions for 91 yards on 8 targets with Josh Norman in coverage.

Excerpt from Mike Garafolo, Fox Sports

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The Panthers had Norman under contract for just under $14 million this season. He publicly stated he wouldn't hold out -- the July deadline to sign a long-term contract takes a lot of leverage away from a player anyway -- so it's not like they had to worry about his absence burning a hole in their defense during the season.

The rate of $14 million for one season was higher than the Panthers wanted to pay Norman, but when they reached the deadline to tag him, they didn't want to let him hit the market without a shot at a long-term deal to keep him in Carolina.

Sources told FOX Sports that Norman's agent told the Panthers he was looking for a rate of $16 million per season and more. That's more than $2 million per year over the tag, which was also around the average rate on the contracts for Patrick Peterson, Richard Sherman and Darrelle Revis.

Gettleman did not believe Norman was in that category. They don't believe he has the skill set to be a lockdown No. 1 corner in any system. Many evaluators around the league agreed with that assessment and said Norman benefitted from a system that limited his responsibilities on one side of the field.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/c...ttleman-042016

**Dylan** · 04-20-2016, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I can see it now, Norman won't get the offers he quite expected on the open market and he will return to Carolina for slightly less... Just wait...

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In 2005, Gettleman was part of a Giants front office that made a bold move similar to the one he made with Norman. The Giants, who badly needed a wide receiver, publicly announced they'd rescinded their offer to Plaxico Burress. Gettleman was the head of player personnel at the time, so while GM Ernie Accorsi and assistant GM Kevin Abrams did the negotiating, Gettleman's evaluation of Burress helped the team deteremine his worth. Burress switched agents and struck a deal with the Giants.

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