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Old 04-19-2016, 06:40 PM  
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Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59.

For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock...

Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson
He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth.

Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State
Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL.

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Old 04-19-2016, 10:39 PM   #136
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We need to be 3 or 4 deep solidly at corner, they'll come away with a corner. Same with wr.

It's open for them alot of ways. I wouldn't be overly pissed with Whitehair I guess
The reasoning behind Whitehair is they tried to fill that spot with Grubbs last season...so obviously they value it and see it as a position for improvement. He is also versatile...which can double-duty for injury.

I'd really like the pick...from a pragmatic/value perspective. He's not going to be a bust...
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:41 PM   #137
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The reasoning behind Whitehair is they tried to fill that spot with Grubbs last season...so they obviously value it and see it as a position for improvement. He is also versatile...which can double-duty for injury.

I'd really like the pick...from a pragmatic/value perspective.
I'm generally against guards in the first round, but it's a big hole aND shoring up the ol would be nice.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:43 PM   #138
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The reasoning behind Whitehair is they tried to fill that spot with Grubbs last season...so obviously they value it and see it as a position for improvement. He is also versatile...which can double-duty for injury.

I'd really like the pick...from a pragmatic/value perspective. He's not going to be a bust...
I must be getting tired as this is making more and more sense!
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:46 PM   #139
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Almost every player I come up with that reasonably has a chance to be their when the chiefs pick, I can sit back and say "yeah, or I can have player x in round y and probably get about the same production".

I'm sure I'm over valuing the guys that will be therr later a bit but there's alot of ways they can go.

Unless one of the big 3 corners are there
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:46 PM   #140
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I'm generally against guards in the first round, but it's a big hole aND shoring up the ol would be nice.
ONLY if a more talented CB, OLB, ILB and WR is off the board.

They can get a starting LG in the 4th, especially between Fisher and Morse, both of whom should have breakout years.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:47 PM   #141
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I also think CB will be a 2nd or 4th rd pick due to not only the faith they seem to have in Gaines and Nelson, but Parker playing well at CB and Jimmy Wilson previously playing well in the slot.
I would ****ing love it if we took Kalan Reed rd 2. Sending our DB coaches to his pro day was very telling.

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Dude shut out Amari Cooper and played him alone. 19 passes defended and 4 INT's vs the same competition Gaines faced at Rice.
**** it. Give me Vernon Butler and Kalan Reed in the first 2 rds and watch this defense kick some ass.
If I had to guess what Dorsey does, that is exactly it. I'd be pretty happy with that.
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ONLY if the best CB, OLB, ILB and WR is off the board
I don't think they're taking a wr, or atleast as we've seen with Reid's system, it wouldn't be a big early impact.

Corner for sure.

I just don't know how they feel about what they've got.
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I must be getting tired as this is making more and more sense!
OG is about as glamorous as drafting a punter....but when Smith gets an extra second...he's pretty good.
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ONLY if a more talented CB, OLB, ILB and WR is off the board.

They can get a starting LG in the 4th, especially between Fisher and Morse, both of whom should have breakout years.
They can, but Whitehair or whoever in the forst could possibly give you pro bowl level guard play.

Paired with a pro bowl rt and potential center, that's nice but is it worth it from a value perspective.
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I don't think they're taking a wr, or atleast as we've seen with Reid's system, it wouldn't be a big early impact.

Corner for sure.

I just don't know how they feel about what they've got.
Well, if Doctson is there and WJIII and Apple and Alexander (who I don't like) are gone, it's a no brainer.

It just all depends on how the board falls.
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ONLY if a more talented CB, OLB, ILB and WR is off the board.

They can get a starting LG in the 4th, especially between Fisher and Morse, both of whom should have breakout years.
I agree with that..and that's what they've tried....find a gem on the cheap. It just isn't working out that great...KC has had OL issues for 3 years.
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Well, it Doctson is there, it's a no brainer.

It just all depends on how the board falls.
Yeah, he's good.

I'd take sheppard therr as well as I think he's about as perfect of a fit as you can get for what they wanna do.
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They can, but Whitehair or whoever in the forst could possibly give you pro bowl level guard play.

Paired with a pro bowl rt and potential center, that's nice but is it worth it from a value perspective.
Again, it depends on whether or not an ILBer, OLBer or CB that can provide a bigger blanket if available.

The Chiefs won 12 games last year with a subpar offensive line.

I don't think that adding a Pro Bowl Left Guard will propel them to win 17.
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If I had to guess what Dorsey does, that is exactly it. I'd be pretty happy with that.
The more I read about this dl class, the less I like taking 1 early. I don't know that there's much dynamic play making ability in the ones we'd target.

Butler maybe
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I agree with that..and that's what they've tried. It just isn't working out that great...
12 wins, 1 playoff win, 1 playoff loss, 27-20, on the road.

And that was without their best offensive player (Maclin) and best defensive player (Houston) and their 4th string running back.

A Pro Bowl guard wouldn't have put them over the top.
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