Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

the nation prefers Manning over Brady

No one prefers that...

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Brock

No brady has dreamy eyes and chicks dig him thats why goodell has choosed the pats you will see and cry dude

THE NFL WILL RIGG THIS FOR TEH BRADY!

LOVE IT!

SOAK IT IN!

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Brock

No brady has dreamy eyes and chicks dig him thats why goodell has choosed the pats you will see and cry dude

nope, the Pats are following the 70s dallas script and slowly fighting fading away.

Goodell does nothing but jump when the owners say so

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Romo's QBR in his playoff years:
2006: 50
2007: 55.3
2009: 45.8

Brady's:

2006: 60.2
2007: 61.5
2009: 4.2
2010: 8.7
2011: 74.8
2012: 57.3
2013: 70





Yep. Definitely less clutch than Romo. /sarcasm

With those numbers, Brady actually has a lower avg QBR rating.

[TimBone]

Not that I completely agree with Hootie, but he does make a decent point. That is a pretty horrendous list of games.

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

[Amnorix]

Ugh. As if there wasn't enough stupidity in this thread, we get the biggest troll/idiot currently on CP leaping in. Joy.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

nope, the Pats are following the 70s dallas script and slowly fighting fading away.

Goodell does nothing but jump when the owners say so

Lol dude kraft and goodell are bffs and they dont like peyton lol

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Brock

Lol dude kraft and goodell are bffs and they dont like peyton lol

they like money and they made the Manning's Royalty. Eli has a top 5 QB selling jersey even with the team losing.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Ugh. As if there wasn't enough stupidity in this thread, we get the biggest troll/idiot currently on CP leaping in. Joy.

I'm not the one dumb enough to expect a team to win that never does. And keeps falling for the same joke every year

[KC_Connection]

Hootie is completely right here about both Romo and Brady. Hell, about everything.

Romo is a very good to great QB that has gotten an incredibly unfair rap due to a few bad moments while carrying his shit organization on his back, while Brady's "clutch" reputation is built almost entirely on his play with a great organization from over a decade ago.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Nah, Hootie jumped the shark in the Royals thread when he and I were arguing about Alex Gordon's lack of hustle in game 7 of the World Series. If Gordon had busted his ass out of the batter's box, he would have had a realistic shot at an inside the park home run that would have tied the game in the 9th inning. The ball was misplayed by TWO different outfielders. Two different outfielders! That's exactly how inside the park home runs happen.

Hootie stated very emphatically that nobody in the history of baseball would have busted his ass out of the batter's box after hitting a line drive to left-center with 2 outs in the 9th inning. The fact that it was game 7 of the World Series and his team was down by one run is inconsequential. Nobody in the history of baseball would have busted his ass, according to Hootie.

I suppose I can understand Hootie wanting to defend Alex Gordon with his dying breath, but really, nobody in the history of baseball? Guys like Pete Rose busted their asses on routine ground balls to short. I think Pete Rose would have busted his ass with two outs in the 9th inning of game 7 of the World Series.

I quit paying attention to Hootie after that.

He's right. You bust your ass out of the box there and the fielder grabs it cleanly, as happens 99.9% of the time, and he's got a chance to nail you going back to first.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

I'm not the one dumb enough to expect a team to win that never does. And keeps falling for the same joke every year

I am.

THere's no joke.

I am...

[GoChargers]

Fivehead is the biggest choker in NFL history and it's not even close.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Fivehead is the biggest choker in NFL history and it's not even close.

This is FACT...

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I am.

THere's no joke.

I am...