Andy Dalton gets $115 million extension

[RunKC]

@ESPNNFL: BREAKING: Bengals + QB Andy Dalton reach agreement on 6-year, $115M contract ext

(via @AdamSchefter and @caplannfl) http://t.co/qrpHxlCCbS

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Eric Fisher

Irony bleeds profusely.

so do hemophiliacs

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Your an idiot. If you want to break down the safety position, it becomes a split decision.

Sure. Still doesn't change what I said. If the Bengals are the 3rd most talented team in the AFC, then the Chiefs are even with them or pretty damn close.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by -King-

If the Bengals are the 3rd most talented team in the AFC, then the Chiefs are even with them or pretty damn close.

Not even close.

We have a poverty O-line and secondary.

[Bufkin]

Originally Posted by loochy

so do hemophiliacs

And female rape victims.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by -King-

Sure. Still doesn't change what I said. If the Bengals are the 3rd most talented team in the AFC, then the Chiefs are even with them or pretty damn close.

Yes, if you overrate the chiefs talent as you're doing, the Chiefs talent starts looking better. It's funny how that works.

The gap between the WR and TE play alone puts the Bengals well ahead of the Chiefs. On the other hand, if you're trying to look at Poe and Atkins, you're not looking at any major edge, and the same is true at QB.

You're basically trying to argue that slight advantages in a couple of areas make up for overwhelming disadvantages in several others.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Not even close.

We have a poverty O-line and secondary.

Add poverty WR core to that mix.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Add poverty WR core to that mix.

I don't want to start a rash of "The Bengals have AJ Green and nothing" posts, sorry.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Yes, if you overrate the chiefs talent as you're doing, the Chiefs talent starts looking better. It's funny how that works.

The gap between the WR and TE play alone puts the Bengals well ahead of the Chiefs. On the other hand, if you're trying to look at Poe and Atkins, you're not looking at any major edge, and the same is true at QB.

You're basically trying to argue that slight advantages in a couple of areas make up for overwhelming disadvantages in several others.

What about Charles and Davis vs. Bernard and Green-Ellis?

Houston, Hali, and Ford vs. Burfict and Lamur?

What about Derrick Johnson vs. Mauluga?

Those are slight advantages?

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The question asked by King was about why the Bengals have a better shot at the playoffs than the Chiefs, not whether or not you're sold on the Bengals for the Lombardi.

The Bengals have more overall talent. They have an easier schedule. They also have been to the playoffs in 4 of the past 5 years.

Don't care, they're irrelevant, it doesn't matter who they have. I can't take them seriously and never will.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by -King-

What about Charles and Davis vs. Bernard and Green-Ellis?

What about it? Bernard was a quality overall back, and Green-Ellis is an excellent short yardage guy.

Meanwhile, for comparison, you've got Green, Gresham, Eifert, Sanu and company in comparison to Bowe, Avery and the rest.

[Marcellus]

Andy Reid vs Marvin Lewis

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

What about it? Bernard was a quality overall back, and Green-Ellis is an excellent short yardage guy.

Meanwhile, for comparison, you've got Green, Gresham, Eifert, Sanu and company in comparison to Bowe, Avery and the rest.

So Bernard and Ellis = Charles and Davis.

Correct? Do you even think it's close?

BTW... Green Ellis is most likely going to be cut after training camp so that pushes it in the Chiefs favor even more.

And yes, their WRs are better than ours. I haven't said different. But we also have positions in which we're better than them at. In the end, both teams come out even or close to even.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

CP surely will meltdown now...

Wow, we finally agree!!

[-King-]

Ellis and Bernard had 7 more yards from scrimmage combined than Charles had by himself.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by -King-

So Bernard and Ellis = Charles and Davis.

I didn't say that.

Originally Posted by -King-

Correct? Do you even think it's close?

BTW... Green Ellis is most likely going to be cut after training camp so that pushes it in the Chiefs favor even more.

He's on the team now. We're talking about now. If Green or Charles were to be IRd tomorrow, we'd all be changing the equations.

Originally Posted by -King-

And yes, their WRs are better than ours. I haven't said different. But we also have positions in which we're better than them at. In the end, both teams come out even or close to even.

Your argument is pretty much like saying "Yes, Brady's better than Tyler Bray, but we've got them beat at ROLB, so we match up pretty well."