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Old 03-21-2014, 06:59 AM  
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Raiders trade for Cap'n pick 6
@AdamSchefter: Oakland Raiders now are expected to trade a 2014 late-round pick to Houston Texans in exchange for QB Matt Schaub, per league source.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:39 AM   #136
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Either way , they overpay. But Vick's more of a playmaker and is more fun to watch.
And leads the NFL in most dogs killed.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:14 AM   #137
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Schuab had been declining in physical ability for awhile before his pick 6 campaign.
Yep. He doesn't have the arm strength he once had. In fact, this can directly be traced to a shoulder injury he suffered in the 2012 season. Schaub, being a class act, has never used it as an excuse, but he didn't have to because anyone who has watched him since then can tell his arm is not the same. In fact, the Texans ditched a good portion of their offense to compensate for it. A telling stat is that when Keenan became the QB, Andre Johnson's numbers jumped dramatically - especially involving the deep ball. Keenum would throw down field instead of under the coverage, like Schaub. It was very clear that Schaub didn't have the the arm strength for the deep ball nor the "zip" for the intermediate throws made in traffic.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:26 AM   #138
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IMO he was pick six just for a year and had that slump.. I think this makes the Faders 10x better, im just surprised they haven't cared or seemed to care about getting him any weapons to throw to this offseason
This.

I don't see him being as bad as he played last year. And I'd definitely take him over Vick...
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:25 AM   #139
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:27 AM   #140
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Worst PFF Grade on passes between 1-10 yards: Schaub, Geno Smith, Keenum, Dalton, McGloin, Pryor
Oh my, 3 out of 6?
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I don't see him being as bad as he played last year. And I'd definitely take him over Vick...
I respectfully disagree. How many games have you seen him play since Mid-2012? I've seen most all of them and believe me, he's BAD. He needed / needs for things to be pretty near perfect in order to have success. He won't find that in Oakland. In addition to that, there are questions about his arm strength.
You think Matt Cassel shits himself when blitzed? Wait till you see this Matt in action...I wouldn't want he or Vick as the QB of my team.
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I respectfully disagree. How many games have you seen him play since Mid-2012? I've seen most all of them and believe me, he's BAD. He needed / needs for things to be pretty near perfect in order to have success. He won't find that in Oakland. In addition to that, there are questions about his arm strength.
You think Matt Cassel shits himself when blitzed? Wait till you see this Matt in action...I wouldn't want he or Vick as the QB of my team.

First defender he sees he will be hitting the deck and curling up in the fetal position.

This is not an exaggeration.
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Worst PFF Grade on passes between 1-10 yards: Schaub, Geno Smith, Keenum, Dalton, McGloin, Pryor
Mcgloin was # 1 or 2 in completions of 25 yards or more. He basically had no training camp and he finally practiced with the first stringers in week 6. Not bad for a UDFA.

What I see on that list is teams "trying" to develop a QB.

Most SB winners drafted their own QB!
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:43 PM   #146
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Matt Schaub took deep pay cut with Oakland Raiders


According to contract details obtained by USA TODAY Sports, Schaub can make $8 million in 2014 — $3 million less than he was due under his old deal with the Houston Texans – in the form of a $3.5 million roster bonus due next month and a $4.5 million fully guaranteed base salary.

In 2015, Schaub is due a $5.5 million base salary – down from $13.5 million in salary and bonuses under his old deal. The last year of his old deal in 2016 was deleted.

Schaub, 32, can make back $6 million ($3 million each year) through a variety of playtime and performance-based incentives, including making the Pro Bowl. His cap numbers are just $8 million in 2014 and $5.5 million in 2015.
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