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Old 12-14-2012, 09:36 AM  
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Bills GM: 'Time is now' to trade up for a QB
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In what has become a weekly discussion of his franchise's quarterback situation, Bills GM Buddy Nix suggested Friday that he's keen on trading up to address the position in this year's draft.

"Let me say this: I think there's a time that in the era that you're in and the development of your team, there's a time when you can move up a round to take a quarterback," Nix said. "And I think the time's now for us ... We need a good, young quarterback, and we're going to do our best to get him." Nix has waffled a bit on the issue, but has essentially conceded that Ryan Fitzpatrick is not the solution.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:18 PM   #136
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My point about Geno is just what you said. Russell is the best ever, but Geno isn't worth the pick. I don't trust them, or really care what they think.
Makes sense now, sorry.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:19 PM   #137
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I'm talking about the 2001 draft when SD traded down from the 1st pick, which was Vick to take LT. Then they drafted Brees
Ah, yes.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:21 PM   #138
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Making a move like SD did in 2001 is very risky, but if you hit pay dirt with a QB in the second you look like a genius.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #139
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Making a move like SD did in 2001 is very risky, but if you hit pay dirt with a QB in the second you look like a genius.
They did hit pay dirt, too.

Lucky for us they were too ****ing stupid to know what to do with it.

I know they had already drafted Rivers at that point, but when you have the season that Brees did in his last year in San Diego, how are you not tempted to take what you know is a good thing and cut your losses by trading the other?
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:46 PM   #140
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Making a move like SD did in 2001 is very risky, but if you hit pay dirt with a QB in the second you look like a genius.
San Diego really didn't hit pay dirt though. What do they have to show for that gamble? Nothing really. Certainly no hardware.

They ended up trading away the Super Bowl winner and are stuck with the whiner.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:50 PM   #141
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Of course if we didn't trade for Trent Green in 2001, we **** the Chargers plan up.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:52 PM   #142
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San Diego really didn't hit pay dirt though. What do they have to show for that gamble? Nothing really. Certainly no hardware.

They ended up trading away the Super Bowl winner and are stuck with the whiner.
They drafted an all-world QB and RB in the first two rounds. The GM messed it up and drafted Rivers while letting Brees walk.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:53 PM   #143
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:00 PM   #144
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They drafted an all-world QB and RB in the first two rounds. The GM messed it up and drafted Rivers while letting Brees walk.
Brees wasn't all-world in San Diego. He wasn't all world until he got to New Orleans and teamed up with Sean Payton.

Outside of a great 2004 season, he average over 15 INTs a season and barely scratched 6.0 ypa.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:03 PM   #145
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San Diego really didn't hit pay dirt though. What do they have to show for that gamble? Nothing really. Certainly no hardware.

They ended up trading away the Super Bowl winner and are stuck with the whiner.
In fairness, they really wanted E. Manning(drafted him) and basically were forced to settle. I suppose they coiuld be faulted for drafting Rivers over Roethlisberger......
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:06 PM   #146
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In fairness, they really wanted E. Manning(drafted him) and basically were forced to settle. I suppose they coiuld be faulted for drafting Rivers over Roethlisberger......
True. That's fair.

**** Eli Manning...
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:08 PM   #147
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Oh damn, I hate you.

Now I just thought "what if we draft Geno and he refuses to play in KC?"
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Oh damn, I hate you.

Now I just thought "what if we draft Geno and he refuses to play in KC?"
hahahah....lets hope that doesnt happen.

I always found it funny that Archie didnt want Eli to play in SD because he thought it was a poor organization and didnt want his son to experience what he did in NOLA. Then, they got really good nearly immediatly after that with Marty.

I wonder if Marty would have won a title with Eli?
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Oh damn, I hate you.

Now I just thought "what if we draft Geno and he refuses to play in KC?"
They guy plays college ball at West Virginia. Outside of the possibility of proximity to family, it's not like WV's a cultural mecca. Hell, I'm surprised the mountain folk haven't revolted with a black QB at the helm of their prestigious institution. I have a hard time believing that spending time in KC would be any worse than spending time in Morgantown, WV...
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Amongst many of the scouting services, Ryan and Rivers were absolutely considered elite prospects. They weren't consensus like Eli Manning but they were considered elite prospects. Freeman and Roethlisberger were in that "next" group ala Ryan Tannehill last year.
Ryan had a lot of question marks and Rivers was absolutely a second-class citizen to Manning, who was more of a question-mark than Peyton.

Ryan and Rivers were both consensus top 10 QBs, just not elite. Geno Smith, to me, is a better prospect than Ryan, Schaub and Freeman were on tools alone. So is Geno Smith an elite prospect or not? To me, he is. Maybe he's not A+ like Luck and Griffin, but he is certainly no worse than an A-.
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