Chiefs Ron Parker coming back? - Page 10

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01:20 PM

Ron Parker says in text message he plans to sign with Kansas City. @TerezPaylor
— Stephen Fastenau (@IPBG_Stephen) March 14, 2015

I can confirm the #Chiefs will sign Ron Parker. Agent Justin Turner tells me the deal is worth $30 million in total money over five years.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 14, 2015

Ron Parker’s deal includes $8M guaranteed ($5M SB) and $5M in playing time incentives tied to playoff appearances and interceptions.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 14, 2015

The deal for Ron Parker with the Chiefs is the largest ever for an un-drafted safety according to @NFLAgents_net
— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 14, 2015

**Mav** · 03-14-2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Other needs than to sign a center? You do realize that Eric Kush is now the starting center of this team? Kush couldn't push Linkenbach or McGlynn for time despite being an adequate size for a guard last year.

My only guess for that is they wanted to keep kush at center.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-14-2015, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Billay

I'm not sure why the Chiefs would sign 2 d-lineman. Knighton is a fatass who's looking to cash out, Ayers is average and Hudson Is a center. Usually I agree with your takes but this one is puzzling. Like others have said its all about structure IE: that Mays contract looked ridiculous last year. This team is in great cap shape next year.

What does Fanaika add to this team that a vet minimum guy wouldn't?
Same for Mauga.

Hell, Porkchop signed for what we gave Vance Walker last year. If he played 30 snaps a game maybe Poe wouldn't die in the second half of the season and we could slide him outside on the occasional down (or use him as a penetrating one gap in a 4-3 look).

Ayers is average. Mauga is TERRIBLE.

Hudson is a center. Grubbs is a guard.

MMXcalibur · 03-14-2015, 12:24 PM

Keep him away from cornerback and things should be fine.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-14-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Parker plays a skill position. And you're going to have to back up these claims about Seattle suffering without Unger. I'm going to look that up right now. That seems like a load of ****ing bullshit to me.

Bill Barnwell, who you have referenced on here several times, has mentioned it more than once on his columns/podcast with Mays on Grantland.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Parker plays a skill position. And you're going to have to back up these claims about Seattle suffering without Unger. I'm going to look that up right now. That seems like a load of ****ing bullshit to me.

Seattle went 7-1 in Unger's absence.

Hey, I like Unger but I'd take Earl Thomas over Unger every day of the week.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Bill Barnwell, who you have referenced on here several times, has mentioned it more than once on his columns/podcast with Mays on Grantland.

And they still went 7-1

**Mav** · 03-14-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

Keep him away from cornerback and things should be fine.

Yeah. He's awful at corner.

Discuss Thrower · 03-14-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And they still went 7-1

Surely had nothing to do with the fact their defense only gave up an average of 14 points, right?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-14-2015, 12:29 PM

In the six games Unger played -- the first four and Weeks 10 and 11 -- the Seahawks averaged 392.5 yards of offense per game, including 203.8 yards rushing. Seattle also allowed 13 total sacks in those six games and Wilson had a passer rating of 95 or higher in five of the six.

In the 10 games Unger missed, Seattle averaged nearly 30 yards less of offense, but the big drop-off was in the running game. The Seahawks rushed for just 153.9 yards in those 10 games when Unger was out.

And from Barnwell:

Stork’s counterpart, Unger, missed multiple stretches of time due to injury this season, and it’s easy to overlook just what his absence does to the Seattle running game. On the year, Seattle averaged 3.1 yards before contact — the fifth-best mark in football. But with a healthy Unger over the first five weeks, Seattle put up 3.81 YBCT/run, comfortably the best in the league. From Week 6 through 9, with Unger on the sideline, that number fell to 2.48 — 15th overall. With Unger back in the lineup for the next two weeks, it jumped back to 4.55 — and only the Vikings were better. Then, when Unger missed the next six games, Seattle dropped back down to 2.44 — worse than league average. You get the idea. If the Seahawks get the running game going against New England, it won’t just be because of Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch.

DJ's left nut · 03-14-2015, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Maybe instead of tossing out claim like I said anyone who has liked Dorsey's offseason is a ****ing idiot you go back to fundamentals of reading and look at whose contracts I was talking about.

What I said wasn't that the entire offseason had been shit but that preferring the restructure of Grubbs, signing Mauga, Parker, and Fanaika, over targeting players like Fairley, Ayers, and retaining Hudson would be a ****ing idiot.

But I'm the one tossing out bullshit arguments. Get ****ed with that hypocrisy.

You are tossing out bullshit arguments. Citing $70 million in money to the guys we gave it to is a bullshit argument - it means nothing. Nor do the total $$ figures cited for the guys that didn't sign here. Acting like those figures are in any way salient and the condescending to anyone who thinks otherwise is garbage.

When someone says they like Dorseys moves and your response is "then you're a ****ing idiot" then yes, that's bullshit.

You're welcome to wallow in your misery. This place is somehow more downtrodden than when Pioli and Cassel were running things. Its goddamn unbelievable.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-14-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Seattle went 7-1 in Unger's absence.

Hey, I like Unger but I'd take Earl Thomas over Unger every day of the week.

Earl Thomas is the best free safety in football. Are you saying that Parker is an equivalent safety to Hudson's standing within centers (a guy you claimed was a top five center).

Red Dawg · 03-14-2015, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And he's 25 and played well for an entire season with crap on either side of him.

Not worth 9 mil per year. Period. We did the right thing letting him walk. He is not a dominent center because he is too small. How many times did we get stuffed? JC got nailed repeated trying go behind or center and guards.

Mother****erJones · 03-14-2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

the salary cap is a myth ... every year you just leverage towards the next year or the next two years ... rinse, wash, repeat

Clark is spending a lot of up front money and people are still mad. Go figure.

Yup this year we proved it. I've said its a myth. We had no cap but yet we got Maclin, Grubbs, kept Parker, signed that gaurd

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-14-2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You are tossing out bullshit arguments. Citing $70 million in money to the guys we gave it to is a bullshit argument - it means nothing. Nor do the total $$ figures cited for the guys that didn't sign here. Acting like those figures are in any way salient and the condescending to anyone who thinks otherwise is garbage.

When someone says they like Dorseys moves and your response is "then you're a ****ing idiot" then yes, that's bullshit.

You're welcome to wallow in your misery. This place is somehow more downtrodden than when Pioli and Cassel were running things. Its goddamn unbelievable.

Some of Dorsey's moves do not equal all of Dorsey's moves. You should at least have enough integrity to acknowledge this utterly simple fact.

Moreover, given that we use contracts to evaluate value, scaling the contracts of one group of players to another (knowing that all are unlikely to see their deals end) is perfectly reasonable.

Mr. Laz · 03-14-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

And you never answered the question.

What starter were we signing for $8 million?

You can bet your ass that some guys on the market now will sign for 8-ish million that we could use

RT,MLB,WR,TE

Wisnieswski can probably hand for 5 million per
Brandon Spikes too

Hell ... Percy Harvin just signed for 6 million.

Bulaga signed for 8 per
Julius Thomas signed $9.2 million
Fairley signed 1yr/5 million
TERRANCE KNIGHTON 1yr/4 million
Antrel Rolle 3-year, $11.25 million ($5 million guaranteed)

we paid Parker more than Rolle

03-14-2015, 11:17 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $2706009	Ron Parker coming back? Ron Parker says in text message he plans to sign with Kansas City. @TerezPaylor — Stephen Fastenau (@IPBG_Stephen) March 14, 2015 I can confirm the #Chiefs will sign Ron Parker. Agent Justin Turner tells me the deal is worth $30 million in total money over five years. — Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 14, 2015 Ron Parker’s deal includes $8M guaranteed ($5M SB) and $5M in playing time incentives tied to playoff appearances and interceptions. — Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 14, 2015 The deal for Ron Parker with the Chiefs is the largest ever for an un-drafted safety according to @NFLAgents_net — Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 14, 2015 Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-14-2015 at 01:20 PM..
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03-14-2015, 12:29 PM	#144
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7739572	In the six games Unger played -- the first four and Weeks 10 and 11 -- the Seahawks averaged 392.5 yards of offense per game, including 203.8 yards rushing. Seattle also allowed 13 total sacks in those six games and Wilson had a passer rating of 95 or higher in five of the six. In the 10 games Unger missed, Seattle averaged nearly 30 yards less of offense, but the big drop-off was in the running game. The Seahawks rushed for just 153.9 yards in those 10 games when Unger was out. And from Barnwell: Stork’s counterpart, Unger, missed multiple stretches of time due to injury this season, and it’s easy to overlook just what his absence does to the Seattle running game. On the year, Seattle averaged 3.1 yards before contact — the fifth-best mark in football. But with a healthy Unger over the first five weeks, Seattle put up 3.81 YBCT/run, comfortably the best in the league. From Week 6 through 9, with Unger on the sideline, that number fell to 2.48 — 15th overall. With Unger back in the lineup for the next two weeks, it jumped back to 4.55 — and only the Vikings were better. Then, when Unger missed the next six games, Seattle dropped back down to 2.44 — worse than league average. You get the idea. If the Seahawks get the running game going against New England, it won’t just be because of Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch.
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