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09-26-2014, 11:21 PM | #138 | |
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09-26-2014, 11:24 PM | #139 |
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He was a fringe Major Leaguer for the first four years of his career. He was already on his third team by that point.
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09-26-2014, 11:29 PM | #140 |
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That's not exactly unusual in baseball. Not everybody is good immediately like Trout/Harper, it takes some time (and it did for Sosa to even become the player he was before the 60+ HR years).
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Yes, home runs spiked during that era. I would bet the balls were juiced which makes some appreciable difference. Yes, ballparks become more hitter friendly and yes, pitching got worse due to league expansion. Let's throw in a few more. The strike zone decreased in 1996. New ballparks not only shortened the fences, but also in many cases restricted foul territory giving more players a shot. Mass increases in legal supplements and weight training (granted, weight training is boosted by steroid use). Maple bats. Improving video training (exhibit A - Jose Bautista. Exhibit B - Curtis Granderson). Can we also point out that Bonds started wearing that ridiculous elbow pad and got away taking an entire part of the plate? Factors that could explain the offensive dropoff after steroids. Is it outrageous to think the MLB might deaden the baseball knowing the steroid scrutiny? Hitters are walking less and K'ing more. Defenses are becoming extremely innovative at defensive shifts. Defense in general has improved a shit ton and you have guys like Billy Beane building teams primarily on defense. Pitching has improved considerably and I've read that strikes thrown has increased dramatically. One more interesting HUGE difference. Even though the strike zone hasn't changed, analyses show that the strike zone has increased considerably the past few years. (edit: one more. Pitching velocity has increased dramatically. Not for the better. Tommy John surgeries have also increased dramatically). CONSPIRACY THEORY? Did the MLB increase the strike zone and deaden balls to reduce hitting? Here's the interesting question... let's assume no ballparks changed, the level of pitching stayed the same, and balls weren't juiced. How much would Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa have improved production without PEDs? Bonds and McGwire were massive power hitters way before they ballooned in size. Now, would Bonds have been able to maintain production at his late age without PEDs? I bet not. I don't know if any of those guys could hit 60+ home runs. But I bet they could easily top 50 without any PEDs. Last edited by chiefzilla1501; 09-27-2014 at 12:41 AM.. |
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Even then 50 to 60 is a 20% increase. That's enormous.
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09-27-2014, 12:15 AM | #144 |
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Well then let's raise the stakes. Reduced strike zone, juiced ball, really bad pitching, ballparks with shorter fences/less foul territory, maple bats, improved strength training and legal supplements, major improvements in video technology. Those things probably all coming to a head right at about the steroid era.
Who's to say those guys wouldn't have seen appreciable home run spikes even without PED use? (Ignoring that maybe steroids prolonged some careers) |
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09-27-2014, 04:57 AM | #145 |
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09-27-2014, 07:34 AM | #146 |
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Surely there's a Pink-Kel conspiracy theory. I mean for god's sake, the mans record is like Schottenheimer minus actually getting a shot at the golden ring.
I haven't been paying much attention to MU since the realignment, but I would imagine that boy has got to be severely outmatched in the SEC.
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It'll do.
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